IRC log of apa on 2026-02-25

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:35:12 [janina]
Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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Date: 25 Feb 2026
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Chair: Matthew
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agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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agenda+ New charters review
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agenda+ New on TR
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agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
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agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
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agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
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agenda+ Other business
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agenda+ Be done
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/join #rqtf
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agenda?
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present+
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zakim, who's here?
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Present: janina
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On IRC I see kirkwood, RRSAgent, Zakim, gb, janina, jamesn, lea, slightlyoff, alice, nicolo-ribaudo, alastairc, Rachael, astearns, jyasskin, Roy_Ruoxi
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present+
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agenda?
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present+
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present+
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present+
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agenda?
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present+
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present+
15:04:41 [matatk]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
15:04:50 [matatk]
subtopic: W3C Breakouts Day 2026
15:04:52 [matatk]
https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2026
15:05:01 [Eric_hind]
scribe+
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scribe+ Eric_Hind
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mtatak: Breakout day 2026 is coming, looking for talks, support, new considerations - TPAC style but standalone
15:06:29 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Good for APA folks to even look at titles to get a feel for what's happening
15:06:42 [Eric_hind]
matatk: read me has all the information and dates
15:07:20 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Think about presenting based on your task force - especially if looking for greater input.
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q?
15:07:53 [matatk]
subtopic: Meet the TAG
15:08:27 [matatk]
https://ti.to/web-standards/meet-the-w3c-tag
15:08:34 [mpaiva]
present+
15:12:07 [Fredrik]
So Steve is officially the main man. Thanks for clearing that up.
15:12:12 [matatk]
q?
15:12:20 [Fredrik]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:12:21 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/25-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
15:12:33 [matatk]
subtopic: COGA and WCAG 3
15:12:49 [matatk]
scribe+ Eric_hind: COGA is taking a super deep dive into the current WCAG 3 draft - bear with us.
15:12:52 [mpaiva]
I am looking forward to seeing you all in Dublin
15:13:06 [matatk]
janina: This is a great opportunity to look into WCAG 3 for everyone. Architectural decisions are being made.
15:13:30 [matatk]
janina: More to come up on this call soon!
15:13:40 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/25-apa-minutes.html matatk
15:14:29 [Eric_hind]
zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- New charters review -- taken up [from janina]
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subtopic: [wg/webperf] Web Performance Working Group Charter
15:14:40 [matatk]
https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/531
15:15:18 [Eric_hind]
matatk: link is to the delta between the previous and proposed charter
15:17:26 [Eric_hind]
matatk: interesting a11y perspective on reporting, could this help report accessibility issues? But there are privacy considerations.
15:17:58 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Since this is intended to be normative, taking a look at this with an a11y perspective would be good.
15:18:47 [matatk]
q?
15:19:07 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Nothing of worry here, but worth having a think about from our group.
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q?
15:20:33 [Fredrik]
+1
15:20:36 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Any objections to approving the charter?
15:20:39 [Fredrik]
rrsagent. make minutes
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+1
15:20:41 [Neha]
+1
15:20:54 [stevef]
+1
15:21:03 [Eric_hind]
matatk: No objections, we will support this
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- New on TR -- taken up [from janina]
15:21:20 [matatk]
subtopic: CSS Selectors Level 5
15:21:20 [matatk]
https://www.w3.org/TR/2026/WD-selectors-5-20260217/
15:23:00 [Eric_hind]
matatk: This is already partially supported - there are a few items of note/intrigue. Such as semantic heading selection.
15:23:00 [PaulG]
q+
15:23:57 [Eric_hind]
matatk: We should have a look at it after CSS Level 4.
15:23:59 [matatk]
ack PaulG
15:24:06 [janina]
q+ to ask about DD nexus
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q-
15:25:37 [Eric_hind]
paulg: Section 3 might be worth attention, guessing user intent by hover/focus, among other items.
15:25:56 [matatk]
https://open-ui.org/components/interest-invokers.explainer/
15:26:23 [janina]
q+
15:26:28 [Eric_hind]
paulg: Text is deep on visual perspectives and may not have AT perspectives as well as it could
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matatk: Making it more consistent would be good.
15:29:07 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Can be hard to fit this into the various platforms and agents.
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q?
15:30:12 [janina]
q-
15:30:18 [Eric_hind]
matatk: CSS Level 5 assumes semantics and selectors will go together - if not, then it becomes problematic in the future.
15:30:30 [janina]
q+
15:30:57 [Eric_hind]
paulg: There are some implicit assumptions around ARIA and other a11y perspectives.
15:32:01 [Eric_hind]
janina: Feels this should be an APA issue as does matatk
15:32:49 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Will draft the issue per the process
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subtopic: Dpub/DAISY Extended Description Draft
15:33:25 [janina]
https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y-extended-desc/blob/main/README.md
15:34:14 [Fredrik]
Assign me!
15:34:16 [Eric_hind]
janina: Email request from Dpub. We should file one of our issues on this.
15:34:48 [Neha]
Add me as well
15:35:02 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Fredrik will review, about certain types of content and best practices not working for Dpub.
15:35:28 [Eric_hind]
matatK: Will make the issue and assign the interested folks.
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q?
15:36:13 [mpaiva]
q+
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ack mpaiva
15:38:23 [mpaiva]
https://w3c.github.io/ai-accessibility/
15:38:53 [matatk]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/research/user-requirements/
15:39:13 [mpaiva]
link to the issue: https://github.com/w3c/ai-accessibility/issues/27
15:39:27 [Eric_hind]
matatk: AI and accessibility, we need participation and mpaiva will be jumping
15:40:06 [Eric_hind]
janina: Note that updating CAPTCHA is in queue this year too
15:40:23 [matatk]
This doc to be updated this year: https://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/
15:40:44 [Eric_hind]
zakim, next item
15:40:44 [Zakim]
I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Eric_hind
15:40:50 [matatk]
q?
15:40:52 [matatk]
ack janina
15:40:55 [Eric_hind]
zakim, next item
15:40:55 [Zakim]
agendum 4 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
15:40:58 [matatk]
subtopic: Accessibility Implementation Guidelines (DVB BlueBook A185)
15:40:58 [matatk]
tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/266
15:40:58 [matatk]
Due: 2025-11-30
15:42:03 [Eric_hind]
janina will be posting on this very soon after some edits
15:42:56 [matatk]
subtopic: CSS Anchor Positioning Level 1
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tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/289
15:42:56 [matatk]
Due: 2026-01-30
15:44:25 [Eric_hind]
matatk: We have discussed and content was updated in the google doc found in issue. If you'd like to edit, ask for rights.
15:45:15 [PaulG]
q+
15:45:17 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Some examples were created by neha which we could copy and paste. We need framing text to allow it generalize
15:45:44 [matatk]
ack PaulG
15:47:19 [Eric_hind]
paulg: For the example code, willing to test or validate. Concern that focus gain/lost and reading order is not as usable. Practical testing does allow real-world compatibility
15:48:43 [Eric_hind]
matatk: agree that this is a good thing to show the teams - suggest that anyone who works on the examples (popover, describedby, custom disclosure), mention it in the issue
15:49:10 [Eric_hind]
paulg: Biggest concern is the custom disclosure - the popped or open item may not be a direct sibling
15:50:04 [mpaiva]
so we need demos for: tooltips, popovers, accordions, notifications?
15:50:06 [matatk]
subtopic: Selectors Level 4
15:50:06 [matatk]
request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/148
15:50:06 [matatk]
tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/294
15:50:06 [matatk]
Due: 2026-07-22
15:50:44 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Looking for assignees. Feel free to assign yourself to the issue.
15:50:55 [Eric_hind]
zakim, next item
15:50:55 [Zakim]
agendum 5 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
15:50:58 [matatk]
subtopic: WG New Spec: Scroll-Triggered Animations
15:50:58 [matatk]
source: w3ctag/design-reviews#1167
15:50:58 [matatk]
tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/272
15:50:58 [matatk]
We need to continue working on the draft.
15:53:06 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Outline of what should be included is there - with some comments. Looking for conversations to kick off on the sections, a good start but need some momentum
15:53:42 [Eric_hind]
matatk: Anyone who wanted to contribute, not been able to. If so, request edit.
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zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been janina, Eric_hind, matatk, Fredrik, Neha, stevef, PaulG, mpaiva
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/25-apa-minutes.html Zakim
15:55:19 [Zakim]
I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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matatk you attending SOTB?
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