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11:56:37 <AndyS> zakim, this is Data Shapes WG
11:56:37 <Zakim> got it, AndyS
11:57:11 <AndyS> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary-2026-02-23.md
11:57:13 <agendabot> clear agenda
11:57:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 1 deliverables
11:57:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 2 deliverables
11:57:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Review old PRss
11:57:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Task Force reports
11:57:15 <agendabot> agenda+ General Business
11:57:30 <AndyS> present+
11:57:55 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
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11:58:21 <AndyS> chain: elianaP
11:58:39 <AndyS> s/chain: elianaP//
11:58:44 <AndyS> chair: elianaP
11:59:09 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
11:59:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/23-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
11:59:36 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
11:59:36 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
11:59:37 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), AndyS
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11:59:49 <AndyS> meeting: Data Shapes WG
11:59:53 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
11:59:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/23-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
12:00:33 <AndyS> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/16-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:00:46 <AndyS> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/30-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:01:19 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
12:01:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/23-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
12:01:29 <AndyS> present+
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12:02:34 <AndyS> scribe: AndyS
12:02:46 <ajnelson-nist> present+
12:02:49 <AndyS> present+ oggy
12:02:52 <AndyS> agenda?
12:03:11 <nicholascar> present+
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12:03:33 <AndyS> zakim, open item 1
12:03:33 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Phase 1 deliverables -- taken up [from agendabot]
12:03:43 <DavidHabgood> present+
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12:03:52 <AndyS> elianaP: no updates on phase 1 or 2
12:04:00 <AndyS> zakim, close item 1
12:04:00 <Zakim> agendum 1, Phase 1 deliverables, closed
12:04:01 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:04:01 <Zakim> 2. Phase 2 deliverables [from agendabot]
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12:04:06 <AndyS> zakim, close item 2
12:04:06 <Zakim> agendum 2, Phase 2 deliverables, closed
12:04:07 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:04:07 <Zakim> 3. Review old PRss [from agendabot]
12:04:17 <AndyS> zakim, open item 3
12:04:17 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review old PRss -- taken up [from agendabot]
12:04:28 <mgberg> present+
12:04:34 <labra> present+
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12:04:42 <elianaP> q?
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12:05:09 <AndyS> ajnelson-nist : will get to old PR review today
12:05:20 <AndyS> zakim, next item
12:05:20 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Task Force reports -- taken up [from agendabot]
12:05:24 <TallTed> present+
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12:05:34 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:05:36 <edmond> present+
12:06:04 <AndyS> holger: case of constraint for a limiting values to a valeu in a hierarchy
12:06:15 <AndyS> s/valeu/value/
12:06:16 <AndyS> q+
12:06:22 <elianaP> q?
12:06:25 <AndyS> ack ajnelson-nist
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12:07:05 <AndyS> ajnelson-nist: I'm unclear on the intent
12:07:12 <ieben> present+
12:07:31 <AndyS> holger: value must be a class or subclass
12:07:38 <caribou> present+
12:07:54 <ieben> ASK { $value rdf:type/rdfs:subClassOf* $class . } VS ASK { $value rdfs:subClassOf* $class . }
12:08:23 <AndyS> holger: similar concept in SKOS
12:08:25 <YoucTagh> present+
12:09:06 <ajnelson-nist> ieben: Thank you.
12:09:27 <simonstey> AndyS: it was unclear in some of your comments whether you are including or excluding the topclass of the hierarchy
12:09:53 <simonstey> ... depending on which, ancestor doesnt really work because you are not an ancestor of yourself
12:10:19 <AndyS> ack me
12:10:29 <simonstey> ... clade would fit
12:10:46 <simonstey> ... although this might be a bit to wacky
12:11:10 <TallTed> urClass
12:11:31 <AndyS> elianaP: show of hands on naming
12:11:49 <simonstey> ... ancestorClass, rootClass, cladeClass
12:12:10 <AndyS> elianaP : rootClass -- 5
12:12:20 <simonstey> rootClass +1
12:12:35 <AndyS> ... ancestor -- no support shown
12:13:04 <AndyS> s/rootClass -- 5/rootClaass -- 6/
12:13:37 <simonstey> s/rootClaass -- 6/rootClass -- 6/
12:13:38 <AndyS> s/rootClaass -- 6/rootClass -- 6/
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12:14:04 <HolgerK> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/786
12:14:09 <AndyS> holger: PR 787
12:14:51 <AndyS> ... subset or equal to another property path
12:15:04 <AndyS> ... (chatGPT suggestions)
12:15:07 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:15:27 <AndyS> ... my preference valuesFromPath
12:15:38 <ajnelson-nist> valuesFromPath - seems a little incongruous with sh:equals not being sh:equalsPath
12:15:50 <AndyS> simonstey: hints at nodes on the path
12:16:20 <mgberg> q+
12:16:46 <AndyS> ... one of subsetof or other subset name
12:17:06 <ajnelson-nist> ack me
12:17:07 <AndyS> ajnelson-nist: conflict with path in name
12:17:43 <mgberg> ack me
12:17:44 <AndyS> mgberg: Is the intent a property path or inc node expressions?
12:17:54 <simonstey> +1 subsetof
12:17:58 <AndyS> holger: property path
12:18:13 <AndyS> ... can use     sh:in node-expr
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12:18:36 <ajnelson-nist> +1 subsetOf
12:18:50 <AndyS> elianaP: list of options only posted 2 hours ago
12:19:01 <AndyS> ... a bit early to decide
12:20:58 <DavidHabgood> +1 subsetOf
12:21:12 <elianaP> q?
12:21:33 <AndyS> nicholascar: profiling
12:21:48 <AndyS> ... resolved comment on one PR, doing the other now.
12:22:18 <AndyS> ... next go through use cases to check the doc aligns
12:23:20 <AndyS> edmond: UI
12:23:42 <AndyS> ... going though PR that was in draft since Dec'25.
12:23:51 <AndyS> ... DASH integration into SAHCL
12:23:56 <AndyS> s/SAHCL/SHACL/
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12:24:36 <AndyS> Meeting tomorrow
12:26:04 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/787
12:26:14 <edmond> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/700
12:26:19 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/722
12:26:22 <nicholascar> q+
12:27:42 <AndyS> zakim, next item
12:27:42 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, AndyS
12:27:58 <AndyS> agenda?
12:28:06 <TallTed> ack nicholascar
12:28:07 <AndyS> zkim, close item 4
12:28:12 <TallTed> Zakim, next item
12:28:12 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- General Business -- taken up [from agendabot]
12:28:13 <AndyS> zakim, close item 4
12:28:14 <Zakim> agendum 4, Task Force reports, closed
12:28:14 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
12:28:14 <Zakim> 5. General Business [from agendabot]
12:29:00 <AndyS> nicholascar: reusable property shape but can it inherit message from the node space?
12:29:16 <AndyS> holger: no propagation
12:29:35 <AndyS> s/holger/holgerK/
12:29:53 <ajnelson-nist> q+
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12:33:21 <ajnelson-nist> q-
12:35:00 <elianaP> q?
12:35:50 <AndyS> zakim, end meeting
12:35:50 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been AndyS, simonstey, ajnelson-nist, oggy, nicholascar, DavidHabgood, mgberg, labra, elianaP, TallTed, edmond, ieben, caribou, YoucTagh
12:35:53 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
12:35:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/23-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
12:36:00 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, AndyS; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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12:36:12 <AndyS> rrsagent, please leave us
12:36:12 <RRSAgent> I see no action items