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14:45:53 <Steven> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
14:45:53 <Steven> Date: 17 February 2026
14:45:53 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:45:53 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
14:45:59 <Steven> Regrets: David
14:46:13 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2026Feb/0058
14:46:21 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/03-ixml-minutes.html
14:46:32 <Steven> rrsagent make minutes
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14:46:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/17-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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14:52:49 <Steven> @nico, can you join without having to wait? https://cwi-nl-zoom.zoom.us/j/89919369924?pwd=oYkP728IpdCcljlxyU9AUblbjMOY4y.1
14:57:53 <Steven> Present: Steven, John
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15:01:11 <Steven> Present: Steven, Fredrik, Nico, John, Norm, Bethan, Alan
15:01:52 <Steven> Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
15:02:00 <Steven> [No objections]
15:02:10 <Steven> Topic: Review of open actions
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15:02:17 <Steven> 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139 (new grammars, new README)
15:05:55 <Steven> Steven: Should we have strict, or lax grammars? Are we interested in correctness or structure?
15:06:41 <Steven> ... Should we have policy?
15:07:19 <Steven> Norm: Michael thought it useful to have a direct transl;ation of the RFC.
15:08:14 <Steven> John: It is analogous to your credit card numbers.
15:08:21 <norm> s/transl;ation/translation/
15:09:03 <Steven> ... it is useful to have the structure and check later.
15:09:49 <Steven> ... it is better to have an understandable grammar, than an exact grammar.
15:11:15 <Steven> Bethan: I think there's a good argument for having a strict grammar.
15:12:38 <Steven> ... it would be useful to mark lax grammars as such
15:13:12 <Steven> Fredrik: I've met this problem before.
15:13:49 <Steven> ... When I demonstrated what I did, people criticised me
15:14:03 <Steven> ... you don;t need to check everything in a grammar.
15:14:30 <Steven> ... in our cases, we can be lax because we can assume that the input comes from elsewhere.
15:15:35 <Steven> Topic: Status reports
15:15:56 <Steven> Norm: Working on a new release.
15:16:08 <Steven> Steven: My se3rver is back.
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15:16:45 <Steven> Topic: First Int’l Symposium on Invisible XML
15:25:08 <Steven> [We rehearse the use of Zoom]
15:25:23 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to send email to presentors, and offer help
15:26:11 <Steven> Steven: Let us all send a reminder to our channels
15:27:31 <Steven> Alan: Will we share the links to Zoom?
15:28:27 <Steven> Steven: We will put the links on the symposium page
15:28:37 <Steven> ... you can share them with anyone
15:29:10 <Steven> Bethan: We should remind presentors that the time they have is all they have, so they have to plan their own Q&A
15:31:09 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
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