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12:01:14 <TallTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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12:01:42 <TallTed> meeting: Data Shapes Working Group teleconference
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12:02:02 <TallTed> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/gh-pages/admin/agenda-2025-02-10.md
12:02:04 <agendabot> clear agenda
12:02:04 <agendabot> agenda+ Spec version / URIs (#224)
12:02:04 <agendabot> agenda+ Way of working (see also discussion under #230)
12:02:04 <agendabot> agenda+ Proposed Resolution: Adopt the working drafts https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/167
12:02:05 <agendabot> agenda+ Processes
12:02:07 <agendabot> agenda+ How does the WG make formal resolutions with alternating meeting times?
12:02:10 <agendabot> agenda+ What is the necessary review for PR's to get merged? Over what timeframe?
12:02:13 <agendabot> agenda+ Scribe rotation (one rotation for each meeting?)
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12:03:24 <simonstey> scribe: simonstey
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12:03:51 <simonstey> topic: TF reports
12:04:19 <simonstey> elianaP: phase1 and deliverables -> no updates
12:04:41 <simonstey> ... core, sparql, and node-expr: any updates?
12:05:25 <simonstey> HolgerK: there is a PR I want to talk about
12:05:43 <elianaP> present+
12:05:45 <simonstey> ... with this PR you would be able to say that you're equal to a path expression
12:05:46 <YoucTagh> present+
12:05:59 <HolgerK> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/760
12:06:12 <simonstey> ... I've already implemented this and written test cases and havent seen any problems
12:06:20 <TallTed> present+
12:06:29 <simonstey> ... the second one is about the property sh: intent we talked about the last time
12:06:46 <TallTed> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/plenary2026-02-09.md
12:06:47 <agendabot> clear agenda
12:06:47 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 1 deliverables
12:06:47 <agendabot> agenda+ Phase 2 deliverables
12:06:47 <agendabot> agenda+ Review old PRs
12:06:47 <agendabot> agenda+ [PRs: open, created 2025](https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen++created%3A%3C2026-01-01)
12:06:48 <TallTed> chair: elianaP
12:06:50 <agendabot> agenda+ Task Force reports
12:06:53 <agendabot> agenda+ General Business
12:06:57 <simonstey> ... I received the feedback from bergos to split this into two properties instead
12:07:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/09-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:07:31 <simonstey> ... there is now one property to capture additional constraints in pure text form
12:07:52 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/02-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:07:54 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/02/16-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:08:17 <simonstey> ... with the idea being that one could "draft" and write constraints also as a non-SHACL expert
12:08:40 <elianaP> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/726
12:08:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/09-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:08:56 <simonstey> ... and those can then eventually be transformed into SHACL
12:09:38 <simonstey> ... the other property is similar to what SKILL.md files are used for in claude
12:09:43 <AndyS> q+
12:09:47 <YoucTagh> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/profiling-tf/meeting-2026-02-05.md
12:09:50 <simonstey> topic: profile TF
12:10:46 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist: what I can recall is -> nick had a request for me to post something about profiling of data
12:11:10 <simonstey> ... explaining the documents purpose a bit better
12:11:16 <TallTed> present+ OgnjenSavkovic
12:11:22 <elianaP> q?
12:11:23 <simonstey> ... PR 754
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12:11:48 <simonstey> ... also putting all the namespaces of SHACL into the overview document
12:12:24 <simonstey> YoucTagh: also about the timeline: because that was also discussed
12:12:33 <simonstey> ... version complete by the end of march
12:13:04 <simonstey> ... abstract of the profiling document is now also in line with the one from the other TFs
12:13:51 <simonstey> AndyS: there are multiple directories.. which profiling one are you working in? and can you clean up the other one?
12:14:31 <AndyS> ack me
12:14:37 <simonstey> ... just wanted to also check whether you've discussed Rules as well?
12:14:41 <ajnelson-nist> PR 754 was a point of discussion in the TF call.  Issue 764 was posted in response to Nick asking the group for use cases.
12:15:04 <simonstey> YoucTagh: haven't talked about them in detail yet.
12:15:56 <simonstey> mgberg: is it PR 643?
12:16:12 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/643
12:16:23 <simonstey> s/PR 643/Issue 643/
12:16:36 <elianaP> q?
12:17:09 <simonstey> edmond: since last week I've added a github workflow to check the shapes of widgets
12:17:32 <simonstey> ... I'm also planning to add a RDF turtle serializer (outputting deterministic turtle)
12:17:42 <simonstey> ... a serializer of rdflib
12:18:07 <simonstey> ... in the last meeting we werent able to discuss the timeline, but were primarily discussion widgets
12:18:31 <simonstey> ... widget scoring algo basically, but it's a more generic matcher
12:19:05 <simonstey> AndyS: no particular comments; next meeting this week on wednesday.
12:19:14 <simonstey> ... aren't in the position to have a timeline yet
12:20:06 <simonstey> ... but soon™
12:20:30 <simonstey> elianaP; any updates on compact syntax?
12:20:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/09-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:20:48 <simonstey> ... does anyone know about anything on that front?
12:21:10 <simonstey> AndyS: nick gave an update last week and it sounded like it's not going ahead
12:21:24 <TallTed> s/elianaP; any/elianaP: any/
12:21:38 <simonstey> elianaP: there is no definitive decision, but it seems to be leaning that way
12:21:46 <simonstey> topic: open PRs
12:21:48 <elianaP> q?
12:21:54 <bergos> q+
12:22:21 <simonstey> elianaP: any updates on those open PRs from 2025? ajnelson-nist, bergos?
12:23:01 <simonstey> bergos: update on the open branches -> I wasn't able to delete them
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12:23:28 <bergos> ack me
12:23:31 <simonstey> ... the ones with a green hook should be deletable as their PR was merged
12:23:46 <YoucTagh> q+
12:24:21 <simonstey> YoucTagh: there are some branches that I've created but whose PRs were already merged.. so I can try to delete those myself
12:24:40 <simonstey> elianaP: ok thx! I think that concludes the agenda..
12:25:02 <simonstey> ... see you next week! Rules TF has a meeting on the 11th, UI TF on the 10th
12:25:42 <TallTed> Zakim, end meeting
12:25:42 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been HolgerK, bergos, simonstey, labra, SimonW, ieben, mgberg, DavidHabgood, edmond, ajnelson-nist, AndyS, elianaP, YoucTagh, TallTed,
12:25:45 <Zakim> ... OgnjenSavkovic, caribou
12:25:45 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
12:25:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/09-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
12:25:53 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, TallTed; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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12:26:19 <TallTed> RRSAgent, bye
12:26:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items