IRC log of ixml on 2026-02-03
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- Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
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- Chair: Steven
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2026Feb/0005
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- Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2026/01/20-ixml-minutes
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- Regrets: Nico
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/03-ixml-minutes.html Steven_
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- John is on the hook, but I guess I failed to put that in the agenda
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/03-ixml-minutes.html norm
- 14:58:55 [john]
- Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
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- Date: 3 February 2026
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- Previous minutes: https://www.w3.org/2026/01/20-ixml-minutes.html
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- Present: Steven, John, Norm, Bethan
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- Scribe: John
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- Present+ David
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- opic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
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- s/optic/Topic/
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- Present+ Alan
- 15:00:56 [Steven]
- s/opic:/Topic:/
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- Agreed
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- Topic: Review of open actions
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- Steven : update the spec for Unicode conformance - done
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- 2024-03-05-c - continue
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- 2025-08-19-a contine
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- 2025-04-15-a continue
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- Topic: Status reports
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- Norm: working on a release for the symposium
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- Topic: First Int’l Symposium on Invisible XML
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- Norm showed the draft for the program in tabular form
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- Norm: no registration will vbe required is outlined.
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- s/vbe/be/
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- David: suggest swapping duration and start time columns - agreed
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- Steven: agreed to distribute: Steven: LinkedIn, Bethan: Mastodon, Norm: Weblog, John: Slack., Norm to email Lauren. Norm to ixml and QT4
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- Dry run in two weeks time.
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- David: regrets for next meeting
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/03-ixml-minutes.html john
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- Topic: New issues
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- #334 Move iXML off GitHub?
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- Norm looking at shifting to Codeberg
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- Action Norm - do all the work. Others to get Codeberg ID
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- Topic: Open issues
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- #332 Invisible XML media type
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- Norm suggests treading water pending discussion with W3C - perhaps resolve at Plenary in Dublin in April?
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- + #330 XML Namespace not referenced in iXML
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- Action completed by Norn, but PR not yet merged
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- Agreed to merge
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- + #329 Unicode version not referenced in the spec - now fixed
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- + #310 Not possible to set priority on rules - subsumed into ambiguity
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- Topic: Ambiguity umbrella topic
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- Steven has written a discussion document on the issues involved.
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2026Jan/att-0019/ambiguity.html
- 15:19:52 [john]
- Steven also posted something on the semantics of the 'subtraction' operator - needs response
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- Action: John to study Steven's suggestion
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- Steven: suggests looking at examples we are aware of as to whether they can now be solved
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- Bethan: perhaps the technique suggests negative lookahead (which doesn't consume the negative portion). Are there types of ambiguity that can't be solved by lookahead?
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- Norm: we should still think about priority for simpler construction. It might be useful. Don't want to take it completely off the table.
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- > rrsagent, draft minutes
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- rrsagent, draft minute
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', john. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- Some extensive discussion.....
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- Topic: Modularization
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- Agreed after the symposium
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- Topic: Next meeting
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- 17th February - dry run for symposium
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- rrsagent, publish minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/02/03-ixml-minutes.html john