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13:34:36 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:34:46 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:34:46 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
13:34:46 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
13:34:46 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
13:34:46 <janina> agenda+ Other business
13:34:49 <janina> agenda+ Be done
13:35:16 <janina>  Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:35:34 <janina> Date: 14 Jan 2026
13:35:42 <janina> Chair: Matatk
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14:50:56 <matatk> agenda?
14:51:02 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/01/14-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:51:11 <matatk> present+
14:51:11 <matatk> chair: Matthew
14:57:00 <matatk> zakim, who's here?
14:57:00 <Zakim> Present: matatk
14:57:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see matatk, RRSAgent, Zakim, gb, Roy_Ruoxi, jcraig, janina, alice, slightlyoff, Rachael, alastairc, jyasskin, hdv, chrishtr, astearns, vmpstr, kirkwood
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15:02:44 <Neha> agenda?
15:02:54 <Neha> zakim, next item
15:02:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
15:04:38 <Neha> matatk: Janina changed affiliation so can not continue as a Chair of APA
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15:06:33 <Neha> janina: I will be joining LevelAccess so need to go through W3C before I continue with APA
15:08:00 <Neha> Roy_Ruoxi: I will have to reappoint Janina after approval from W3C team
15:08:16 <JonCohn> present+
15:08:29 <Neha> Jennifer: I am now with Govermnet of Maryland
15:09:25 <Neha> Jennifer: I will see you at CSUN
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15:09:39 <Neha> Congratulations to Janina and Jennifer
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15:09:49 <JenStrickland> present+
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15:10:09 <Fredrik> One sees one at CSUN?
15:10:12 <tsaulter> Will be at my first CSUN this year
15:10:14 <Neha> zakim, next item
15:10:14 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
15:10:47 <matatk> topic: New on TR
15:10:51 <Roy_Ruoxi> subtopic: SHACL 1.2 Node Expressions
15:10:51 <Roy_Ruoxi> issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-longitudinal-tracking/issues/41
15:10:51 <Roy_Ruoxi> spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl12-node-expr/
15:12:34 <matatk> SHACL 1.2 UI: https://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl12-ui/
15:13:00 <Neha> matatk: I think this is pretty low level, but if it is related to SHACL user interface then it should be checked for accessibility
15:13:59 <Neha> Fredrik: I think I should continue with the chain of SHACL
15:14:07 <Neha> matatk: I will have a light reading of it
15:14:36 <matatk> zakim, take up item 2
15:14:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
15:15:17 <matatk> subtopic: CSS Anchor Positioning
15:15:29 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/142
15:15:46 <matatk> APA thread: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/289
15:16:22 <Neha> Eric: Is there any other method I should follow to work on this then please let me know
15:16:51 <Neha> matatk: me, Eric and Paul are working on this
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15:17:08 <Neha> matatk: Neha added some examples
15:17:19 <Crispy> present+
15:17:34 <Neha> matatk: We can definitely build a draft from what we have build till now
15:17:49 <Neha> Eric_hind: I am still working on it
15:18:04 <Neha> janina: Have we considered COGA's comments?
15:18:13 <Neha> Eric_hind: Yes, we have considered
15:18:49 <Neha> janina: We can have a meeting with Lisa and Julie regarding this
15:19:56 <matatk> subtopic: DVB Accessibility Implementation Guidelines
15:20:21 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/266
15:21:23 <Neha> matatk: Janina, Fredrik, Tiffiny and I are on it, but nothing to specify or nothing is missing
15:22:52 <Neha> janina: We are pulled in late but we can have a look and check what ius missing , but it is well written , still confusing where are we in this?
15:24:02 <Neha> matatk: Do you have any concern regarding any thing?
15:24:26 <Neha> janina: It is related to appropriate language which is from Europe
15:25:02 <Neha> matatk: It is a good pointlet us do this async and come up with APA comments
15:25:24 <Neha> janina: Lety us ask Tiffiny and Fredrik have anything to say
15:26:08 <Neha> Tiffany: A way to track the progress of the document
15:27:08 <matatk> q?
15:27:13 <Neha> zakim, next item
15:27:13 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
15:27:27 <Fredrik> rrsagent, make minutes
15:27:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/01/14-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
15:27:44 <matatk> subtopic: Spec: Scroll Triggered Animations #272, COGA, disorientation considerations
15:27:53 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/288
15:27:59 <Eric_hind> q+
15:28:37 <Neha> Eric_hind: It is not related to spec but more general
15:29:22 <Neha> Eric_hind: Scroll triggered animation
15:29:55 <Neha> Eric_hind: If animations are triggered by hovering or by other events that the user might not anticipate will trigger an animation, the user can become confused and disoriented.
15:30:27 <Neha> matatk: One thing we are missing is a link to a request
15:31:12 <matatk> Link to tracking issue for the spec: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/272
15:32:33 <Neha> matatk: This was proposed to TAG spec related to design
15:33:00 <Neha> matatk: One thing to mention to ask to add Accessibility related section
15:33:31 <Neha> matatk: CSS animation is a good place to put it
15:34:26 <Neha> q?
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15:35:47 <Neha> janina: is the use of media query not sufficient to answer this?
15:37:24 <matatk> subtopic: Spec: Scroll Triggered Animations #272, Request additional definitions on term 'animation'
15:37:30 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/285
15:38:27 <matatk> subtopic: Spec: Scroll Triggered Animations #272, Additional considerations when drafting accessibility considerations section
15:38:34 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/286
15:39:36 <Neha> Eric_hind: how Animation can harm users with vestibular disorders
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15:40:31 <Neha> matatk: In this case we want to know we these cases have been considered or not
15:41:55 <Neha> matatk: I will go through TAG spec and check if all these issues which we are discussing are alreadyt considered or not
15:43:09 <JenStrickland> I'm out of spoons this week and unable to support this one, even though it's right in my interest area.
15:44:50 <Neha> q?
15:44:56 <Neha> ack Eric_hind
15:44:57 <matatk> ack Eric_hind
15:45:24 <matatk> subtopic: Spec: Scroll Triggered Animations #272, Request additional definitions on term 'animation'
15:45:31 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/285
15:45:45 <Neha> Eric_hind: it is about Animation definition
15:46:28 <Neha> Eric_hind: only visuals, adding audio or not, so adding definition will help
15:47:34 <Neha> matatk: In terms of process not sure, but this is really good, but I have a query to ask
15:47:37 <matatk> matatk: I was thinking about this too: https://github.com/w3ctag/gaps/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20motion
15:48:22 <Neha> matatk: it is about what is missing on web platform
15:49:06 <Neha> matatk: there is not unique definition to what is motion and not defined way to stop the motion
15:49:40 <Neha> matatk: Some UA work will be required to solve this
15:50:46 <Neha> q?
15:51:21 <matatk> subtopic: Spec: Scroll Triggered Animations #272, COGA, users often need more time impacts content type
15:51:27 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/287
15:52:27 <Neha> Eric_hind:  consideration of users who need more time while using animation
15:53:22 <Neha> JenStrickland: We should explicitly mention to CSS regarding marking animation as decorative images
15:53:39 <matatk> s/marking animation as decorative images/marking animation as decorative/
15:57:41 <Neha> janina: time out is also a problem which should be handled as per WCAG SC
15:58:03 <Neha> rrsagent, end meeting
15:58:03 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'end meeting', Neha.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:58:36 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
15:58:36 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been matatk, mike_beganyi, Eric_hind, Roy_Ruoxi, Fredrik, Neha, tsaulter, JonCohn, JenStrickland, stevef, Crispy
15:58:38 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:58:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/01/14-apa-minutes.html Zakim
15:58:45 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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