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19:30:22 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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19:30:42 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge (A11yEdge) Community Group Teleconference
19:30:51 <janina> date: 07 jan 2026
19:30:56 <janina> chair: Janina
19:30:57 <Mike6> Mike Present+
19:31:00 <janina> present+
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19:38:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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19:44:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:44:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/01/07-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:44:46 <Mike6> present+
19:45:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Conferences
19:45:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: session at CSUN, Janina will participate
19:46:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Zimmerman made a proposal to the upcoming ICCHP, Future Perspectives on Accessibility, AT and (e)Inclusion.
19:48:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: NFB July 2026 Austin Texas, Curtis supports us presenting and dialoguing with the Computer group led by Jonathan Mosen
19:49:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: We plan to see Mosen at CSUN, and am considering the California NFB meeting just afterwards
19:50:59 <Mike6> NFB of California’s annual convention, March 13/14 at the Clarion Hotel Anaheim.
19:52:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:52:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/01/07-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
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19:57:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Talking Points
19:59:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Overlays use some of the approaches that we discuss in post-source
19:59:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 'you've probably heard of overlays, it's not precisely what we're talking about but it is related'
20:00:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... use some of the methods that we discuss in post-soure
20:05:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: Stick to post-source. Post-source remediation, post-source code, post-source enhancement
20:05:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: I suggest a document that points to those accessibility capabilities that are enabled, or possibly can be better done, in post-source
20:10:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We could consider a demonstration page, where a particular capability is demonstrated
20:12:05 <Mike6> Lionel -- we really need to move to a paid version of Zoom....
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20:16:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
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20:19:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: We hear an argument, we (the browsers) do not need companies providing post-source remediation, since the browser can do it
20:20:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we can discuss this with the browser makers
20:21:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... "the remediation that we have discussed, being done by post-source accessibility platforms...
20:21:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... claims have been made that all this stuff can, or may, be done by browsers
20:21:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... assess the truth of this assertion
20:22:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we suspect that there are things that browsers cannot do right now
20:27:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I can write up an outline for a potential paper on this topic
20:29:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
20:29:11 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Mike
20:29:13 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:29:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2026/01/07-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
20:29:21 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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