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12:00:58 <AndyS> zakim, start meeting
12:00:58 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
12:01:00 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), AndyS
12:01:13 <nicholascar> present+
12:01:19 <AndyS> meeting: Data Shapes WG
12:01:30 <SimonW> present+
12:01:31 <simonstey> present+
12:01:38 <AndyS> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/12/08-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:01:38 <elianaP> present+
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12:02:04 <AndyS> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/12/22-data-shapes-minutes.html
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12:02:11 <AndyS> present+
12:02:21 <AndyS> chair: elianaP
12:02:34 <ieben> present+
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12:02:44 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
12:02:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/15-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
12:02:52 <bergos> present+
12:03:08 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
12:03:13 <simonstey> scribe: simonstey
12:03:16 <AndyS> rrsagent, please draft minutes
12:03:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/15-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
12:03:51 <simonstey> topic: FPWD
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12:04:08 <simonstey> elianaP: SHACL Core and SHACL SPARQL are now live as of last week
12:04:20 <DavidHabgood> present+
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12:04:31 <simonstey> ... should now be on auto update
12:04:35 <edmond> present+
12:04:48 <simonstey> topic: TF Updates
12:04:51 <caribou> present+
12:04:55 <mgberg> present+
12:05:00 <simonstey> elianaP: no updates on core/sparql?
12:05:06 <AndyS> q+
12:05:11 <simonstey> elianaP: profiling?
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12:05:28 <simonstey> nicholascar; nothing to report since last week, have a meeting later this week
12:05:40 <nicholascar> q?
12:05:43 <simonstey> edmond: finished widget scoring; also started initial implementation
12:05:51 <simonstey> ... will be sharing this with the group tmrw
12:06:09 <simonstey> ... hopefully get something into a PR later this week/next week
12:06:44 <simonstey> ... learned more about node expressions and how to utilize it for SHACL UI
12:06:47 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/697
12:07:12 <AndyS> s/nicholascar;/nicholascar:/
12:07:13 <simonstey> edmond: we will skip then the next couple of meetings (over xmas/ny)
12:07:45 <simonstey> AndyS: <asking about status of publishing node expression document>
12:08:01 <simonstey> nicholascar: I thought it was already set to autopublishing
12:08:04 <YoucTagh> present+
12:08:29 <simonstey> caribou: rules were set to autopublish last week, but not node expr
12:08:44 <elianaP> q?
12:08:49 <simonstey> ... will update the scripts to include node-expr all
12:08:52 <AndyS> ack AndyS
12:09:06 <caribou> s/set to autopublish/published to TR/
12:09:14 <simonstey> AndyS: so are we publishing node-expr to TR as well?
12:09:21 <simonstey> elianaP: yes
12:09:26 <caribou> I will add the GH workflow to autopublish Rules
12:10:52 <simonstey> AndyS: this week's TF meeting will be on Wed the 17th 11:30 CET
12:11:10 <simonstey> ... the topic for wed. is stuff about stratification
12:11:13 <nicholascar> q+
12:11:26 <simonstey> elianaP: no one from CS group right now
12:12:37 <simonstey> simonstey: I've also a web tool
12:13:01 <bergos> q+
12:13:54 <simonstey> nicholascar: we've a couple of implementations for SHACL rules
12:15:04 <AndyS> ack nicholascar
12:15:11 <AndyS> ack bergos
12:15:59 <simonstey> DavidHabgood: I've a javascript implementation, but I need to tidy it up
12:16:05 <simonstey> ... will be open source
12:17:38 <bergos> q+
12:18:22 <simonstey> caribou: we need to record the resolution that we publish the node expr wd
12:18:31 <simonstey> ... we need to record ns locations
12:18:42 <AndyS> Not clear that rules will need to refer to node-expr namespace, maybe only use the NS.
12:18:59 <AndyS> +1 to publish  node-expr
12:19:11 <simonstey> elianaP: show of hands, who agrees on publishing node-expr wd
12:19:12 <simonstey> +1
12:19:38 <simonstey> elianaP: no objection recorded
12:19:56 <elianaP> q?
12:19:57 <caribou> RESOLUTION: publish shacl12 Node Expressions as FPWD
12:21:29 <simonstey> AndyS: I can start a rules namespace document
12:21:56 <simonstey> caribou: they will be directly created in the ns repo
12:22:03 <caribou> https://github.com/w3c/ns
12:23:01 <simonstey> caribou: ns documents don't get automatically published when (FP)WD are published
12:23:45 <simonstey> ... if we define some new ns in there, and we get the approval for FPWD, then the namespace is approved. ns names aren't expected to change until rec
12:24:37 <simonstey> ... we need to get an approval the first time we "reserve" our ns URI
12:24:59 <simonstey> ... and afterwards, whatever we maintain there is up to the wg
12:26:03 <simonstey> bergos: branches in our github repo..
12:26:09 <simonstey> ... a lot of them are stale
12:26:23 <simonstey> ... can we do some housekeeping and delete them?
12:26:51 <simonstey> ... merged branches vs closed ones
12:27:11 <simonstey>  caribou: once they are merged, they can def. be deleted
12:28:21 <elianaP> q?
12:28:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/15-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
12:28:34 <elianaP> ack bergos
12:28:37 <simonstey> bergos: I'll go ahead and close the merged ones and make a list of all branches with closed PRs
12:28:49 <simonstey> topic: next meetings this year
12:29:07 <simonstey> elianaP: who will be around next week?
12:29:10 <simonstey> +1
12:29:58 <simonstey> nicholascar: I guess we can skip the next one
12:30:13 <simonstey> elianaP: the next 2 meetings will be skipped then unless something comes up
12:30:43 <simonstey> RESOLUTION: the next 2 meetings 22.12/29.12 will be skipped
12:31:45 <AndyS> zakim, end meeting
12:31:45 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been nicholascar, SimonW, simonstey, elianaP, AndyS, ieben, bergos, DavidHabgood, edmond, caribou, mgberg, YoucTagh
12:31:48 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
12:31:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/15-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
12:31:56 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, AndyS; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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12:32:11 <AndyS> rrsagent, please leave
12:32:11 <RRSAgent> I see no action items