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15:01:40 <Zakim> Meeting: Publishing Steering Committee
15:01:44 <Avneesh> present+
15:01:51 <ivan> present_
15:01:55 <shiestyle> present+
15:02:31 <ivan> present+ graham, wolfgang, liisa, shinya, tzviya, cristina, rickj
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15:02:53 <ivan> present+ 9
15:03:02 <ivan> s/present+ 9//
15:03:09 <ivan> present+ ben
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15:04:26 <graham> do we want to scribe this?
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15:05:56 <graham> Rick opened the meeting
15:06:26 <graham> Ben walked through the Resolution with those present
15:07:43 <graham> and explained the arrangements for transfer of the assets of IDPF to W3C, in consideration of the W3C providing tail insurance etc
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15:08:26 <graham> There is provision against the W3C ceasing to support the standard(s) or passing it on to a third party
15:09:56 <graham> Tail insurance and provision against ending support is for three years
15:11:00 <graham> The rest is around defining the scope of what is transferred (essentially all IP, but also a tiny amount of cash held at dissolution)
15:12:39 <graham> Ben then noted 8 resolutions
15:12:58 <ivan> present+ george
15:13:16 <graham> 1. approve asset transfer agreement (to be approved by George)
15:13:28 <graham> 2. authorise dissolution of IDPF
15:13:52 <graham> 3. authorise officers to sign any necessary documents
15:14:23 <graham> 4. required 2 weeks notice to AG of DC prior to filing for dissolution
15:16:57 <graham> (this numbering doesn't match what's in the agreement itself)
15:16:59 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
15:16:59 <Zakim> Present: Avneesh, shiestyle, graham, wolfgang, liisa, shinya, tzviya, cristina, rickj, 9, ben, Bill_Kasdorf, george
15:17:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see liisamk, Bill_Kasdorf, wolfgang, rickj, RRSAgent, Zakim, Avneesh, shiestyle, graham, tzviya, Ralph, ivan
15:17:17 <ivan> present+ leslie
15:18:49 <graham> 5. agree disposition of remaining cash ($5k-ish) to W3C
15:20:21 <graham> 6. approve Ben to file the notice of dissolution
15:21:49 <graham> 7. authorise Ben to provide legal notices in newspapers as required
15:23:31 <graham> 5. (to be signed by Christine)
15:24:22 <graham> 8 ?
15:24:40 <ivan> q+
15:24:42 <graham> *Cristina
15:26:33 <graham> Cristina asked about the IDPF website, but this is already owned by the W3C and per Liisa all that needs to be done is to remove Directors names. To be dealt with informally
15:28:10 <graham> Ivan queried what copyright statement should be used on future drafts, Ben suggests only © W3C should be used (since IDPF will no longer exist)
15:30:27 <graham> George asks to clarify in development 3.4 docs – should retain joint copyright
15:30:57 <graham> Rick asks for agreement of the Board, George seconds. Unanimous approval
15:32:00 <graham> (Ben to complete these minutes)
15:32:13 <graham> Liisa notes 8 of 9 directors voted
15:32:26 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
15:32:26 <Zakim> Present: Avneesh, shiestyle, graham, wolfgang, liisa, shinya, tzviya, cristina, rickj, 9, ben, Bill_Kasdorf, george, leslie
15:32:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see liisamk, Bill_Kasdorf, wolfgang, RRSAgent, Zakim, Avneesh, shiestyle, graham, tzviya, Ralph, ivan
15:32:56 <graham> Ben to begin process of filing Monday
15:36:00 <graham> Rick thanks Ben for service over the last 10? years. Thank you
15:36:41 <graham> Rick asked for an update on TPAC and other issues
15:38:09 <graham> Shinya summarised activities at TPAC, including agreement to defer any decision on HTML syntax , and agreement to not allow image-only content in EPUB
15:38:43 <graham> Discussions continue on developing the CR for 3.4
15:40:25 <graham> Ivan mentioned discussion of presenting 3.3 or 3.4 to ISO. Does anyone understand what the current status is? Cristina may know more. Matt Garish is re-arranging the spec documentation
15:41:47 <graham> Cristina noted good discussion on  standardisation via ISO, but not fully aware of status with EU Commission (relevance to EAA). A call with the people directly involved in the discussion with the EU would be a good way forward
15:43:09 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:43:15 <ivan> q-
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15:43:51 <graham> Bill K asked anything in EPUB 3.4 that affects EPUB Accessibility 1.1
15:43:58 <rickj> q?
15:44:02 <rickj> ack Bill_Kasdorf
15:44:06 <ivan> ack Bill_Kasdorf
15:44:28 <graham> George said 3.4 will require AccessModeSufficient, so revision of EPUB accessibility standard is necessary
15:44:48 <graham> Liisa - successful meeting of Business Group at TPAC, next meeting in mid-Jan
15:45:30 <ivan> q+
15:46:24 <graham> Wolfgang – interesting meeting of Community Group with speaker from Brazil, community group to explore use of Web Publication Manifest as an option in some use cases
15:46:37 <rickj> ack ivan
15:47:23 <Bill_Kasdorf> Elsevier uses NISO's CP/LD, which uses the Publication Manifest.
15:48:04 <graham> Ivan noted separate discussion of Web Publication Manifest with Hachette at TPAC. EDRL to look at how Web Publication and EPUB should co-evolve
15:48:08 <Bill_Kasdorf> BTW that CP/LD standard is completely based on web standards, not just the Publication Manifest.
15:48:36 <rickj> q?
15:50:33 <graham> Avneesh updated the group on a request that the FXL Taskforce should be merged with Accessibility task force. This pattern is also being followed with a joint task force for the Community Group
15:52:43 <tzviya> q+
15:53:06 <graham> Avneesh Also working on revision of document for accessibility metadata. Finally proposal for a further ARIA role associated with programatic discovery of special UI functionality
15:53:32 <Bill_Kasdorf> Will that become part of DPUB ARIA?
15:53:55 <rickj> ack tzviya
15:53:57 <graham> George added more on containers containing extended discription. Work likely concluding spring next year
15:54:48 <graham> Tzviya asked for link to write up on these ARIA proposals (Avneesh to provide)
15:56:30 <graham> Avneesh also raised issue of EPUBcheck, re process of asking for additional budget for specific development tasks
15:57:40 <graham> Rick suggested working with Ralph. Avneesh suggested that DAISY should present an estimate to Steering committee, and Steering committee should deal with Ralph
15:58:55 <graham> Rick asks for AOB
16:00:36 <graham> Rick asks whether next meeting is required. Leave it on the books, but cancel if not necessary.
16:01:37 <graham> Rick also asks that the positions of Rick, Graham be regularised (they are not members of W3C)
16:02:26 <graham> Rick ended the meeting, with best wishes for the Holidays to all
16:02:30 <graham> present-
16:02:49 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:02:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/12-pbgsc-minutes.html ivan
16:03:30 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
16:03:30 <RRSAgent> I see no action items