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19:38:11 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
19:38:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge CG Teleconference
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19:42:24 <janina> zakim, who's here?
19:42:24 <Zakim> Present: (no one)
19:42:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lionel_Wolberger, Mike7, jamesn, Remi
19:47:58 <janina> present+
19:47:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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19:51:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Meeting Schedule
19:51:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Next week is last meeting of 2025
19:51:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... no meetings 24 Dec nor 31 Dec
19:51:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Next meeting 7th January
19:52:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... for clarity: We meet next week 17 December, then 7th January
19:52:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: Suggest we plan the overall scope for 2026
19:52:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... high level planning so we can run with it in 2026
19:53:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... getting the word out, getting comments, how we handle comments, whether we will be considering another draft
19:54:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Next steps
19:54:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Jason suggested we reach out to products, like JAWS, regarding their use of post-source
19:56:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: We should be able to reach teh technical team at Freedom Scientific
19:56:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... ask what are they doing, how are they doing it
19:56:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... what kind of KPIs are they following
19:56:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... did they read this document and how does it ine up with what they are doing
19:57:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: The document has been out a month. No feedback on the github
19:58:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I spoke with Curtis Chung, he said he would bring in Jonathan Mosen
19:59:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: Yes: Jonathan
19:59:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I would reach out also to Karl Groves, Leonie Watson, Steve Faulkner
20:00:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Victor Tsaran, Mike Shebanek, Joshua Miele
20:02:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Mary Fernandez-Arias
20:03:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
20:04:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: Gus Alexiou said the publication is not news
20:04:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Gina Bhawalkar I believe is reading it
20:04:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
20:04:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/10-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
20:05:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: This report is currently like a white paper
20:05:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... analysts are interested in use cases
20:05:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Klaus Miesenberger
20:06:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: I sent a list of people
20:11:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We could do a series of blog posts on features we see that match post-source capbilities
20:11:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: We need to get the tone right
20:12:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Post source seen in the wild
20:13:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: Case Studies, post source capability applied to JAWS
20:14:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: Freedom Scientific did not talk about post-source themselves, but what they are doing aligns with what we describe as post-source
20:15:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we could approach JAWS and say, we have outlined other things that one can do in post-source, they may be interested
20:16:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We notice that some of the features that you are publicizing align with what we described in our W3C CG report as post-source
20:17:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we wondered if some of the other capabilities that we have defined as post-source
20:17:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... are things that you are considering for your products
20:17:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: Add as well: we'd love to get your feedback
20:18:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We noticed that some of the features that you have deployed are in line with what we have described as post-source
20:18:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we'd love for you to read this report and get us feedback
20:18:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: Browsers? Google, Safari, Microsoft Edge
20:19:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: Chrome Reading Mode is post-source
20:23:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: I propose that we reach out to all the world renowned accessiblity and disability experts
20:24:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
20:24:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/10-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
20:26:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Getting the Word Out
20:26:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: Shall we use our social media?
20:26:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Holiday time may not be best
20:27:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike: Let's target January for social medai, that gives us time to prepare
20:28:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this week, reach out to people with technical depth
20:31:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
20:31:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/10-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
20:32:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
20:32:45 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Mike
20:32:47 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:32:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/12/10-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
20:32:55 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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