IRC log of ixml on 2025-11-25

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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2025Nov/0007
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Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
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Chair: Steven
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Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/11-ixml-minutes
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Regrets: Nico
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Present: John, Norm, Bethan, Steven
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Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
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[Accepted]
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Topic: Review of open actions
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Norm: The ones marked completed are done
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Topic: Status reports
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Norm: I implemented numbered repetitions, and two versions of mopdularity.
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s/pd/d/
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... both operate in the same way
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Steven: We should look at alternative syntaxxes as well. I liked Nico's, though not unambiguous, so needs fixing
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Steven: I'd like to see Liam's proposal
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Topic: New open issues
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Subtopic: + #332 Invisible XML media type
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https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/332
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Steven: vnd matches out case
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s/out/our/
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Norm: Wait to see whether W3C situation will allow us to get application/
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present+David
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Steven: I also asked whether we want to use it to kick off the ixml process.
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John: It is analogous to xslt
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David: Are there examples of processors using parameters like this?
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Norm: Can't think of one
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Subtopic: + #329 Unicode version not referenced in the spec
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https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/329
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Norm: We do say there is no requirement on the version of Unicode
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Steven: We did agree not to require any particular version
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Norm: Let's update to 17, and add prose that repeats we have no requirement on a version
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ACTION: Steven to draft prose on Unicode version
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Subtopic: + #330 XML Namespace not referenced in iXML
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https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/330
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Norm: Let's add a ref to the namespaces rec
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ACTION: Norm draft prose for namespaces reference
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Subtopic: + #310 Not possible to set priority on rules
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https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/310
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Norm: Not new, now a part of ambiguity topic
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Topic: First Int’l Symposium on Invisible XML
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Steven: Eight submissions so far
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Norm: I have created a private repository for submissions
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Steven: The Zoom licence I can use looks like it is sufficient for us.
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Norm: Registrations?
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Steven: Just publish the URL and let people come
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John: Still meeting the 16th to look at the submissions
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Norm: Yes, at the same time as usual\
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Topic: Ambiguity umbrella topic
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Norm: Topic made. Whare we going to do?
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s/Whare/What are/
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Steven: The two approaches are 1) let there be ambiguity, and I'll pick one; 2) No ambiguity, handle it in the parser.
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Norm: There are two types of ambiguity.
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... I'd like to see a document.
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ACTION: Steven create a discussion document on ambiguity.
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Topic: Perspectives on serialization
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Steven: Merge.
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Topic: Next meeting
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Steven: Skip the 9th, and next meeting is the 16th
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... next after that will be 6th January
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Topic: AOB
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David: Is there any prep for the 16th?
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Norm: If there are more than 50, we will have to decide, and we can also account for how much time.
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