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14:39:01 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2025Nov/0007
14:39:16 <Steven> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
14:39:25 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:39:35 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/11-ixml-minutes
14:39:43 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/25-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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14:57:24 <Steven> Regrets: Nico
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14:59:54 <Steven> Present: John, Norm, Bethan, Steven
15:02:42 <Steven> Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
15:02:50 <Steven> [Accepted]
15:03:00 <Steven> Topic: Review of open actions
15:03:42 <Steven> Norm: The ones marked completed are done
15:04:04 <Steven> Topic: Status reports
15:04:26 <Steven> Norm: I implemented numbered repetitions, and two versions of mopdularity.
15:04:35 <Steven> s/pd/d/
15:04:48 <Steven> ... both operate in the same way
15:06:32 <Steven> Steven: We should look at alternative syntaxxes as well. I liked Nico's, though not unambiguous, so needs fixing
15:07:06 <Steven> Steven: I'd like to see Liam's proposal
15:07:24 <Steven> Topic: New open issues
15:07:38 <Steven> Subtopic: + #332 Invisible XML media type
15:07:38 <Steven>   https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/332
15:08:33 <Steven> Steven: vnd matches out case
15:08:40 <Steven> s/out/our/
15:09:09 <Steven> Norm: Wait to see whether W3C situation will allow us to get application/
15:09:16 <Steven> present+David
15:11:10 <Steven> Steven: I also asked whether we want to use it to kick off the ixml process.
15:11:49 <Steven> John: It is analogous to xslt
15:12:31 <Steven> David: Are there examples of processors using parameters like this?
15:13:15 <Steven> Norm: Can't think of one
15:13:38 <Steven> Subtopic: + #329 Unicode version not referenced in the spec
15:13:38 <Steven>   https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/329
15:14:53 <Steven> Norm: We do say there is no requirement on the version of Unicode
15:16:17 <Steven> Steven: We did agree not to require any particular version
15:16:43 <Steven> Norm: Let's update to 17, and add prose that repeats we have no requirement on a version
15:17:07 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to draft prose on Unicode version
15:17:27 <Steven> Subtopic: + #330 XML Namespace not referenced in iXML
15:17:27 <Steven>   https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/330
15:17:56 <Steven> Norm: Let's add a ref to the namespaces rec
15:19:19 <Steven> ACTION: Norm draft prose for namespaces reference
15:19:36 <Steven> Subtopic: + #310 Not possible to set priority on rules
15:19:37 <Steven>   https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/310
15:19:58 <Steven> Norm: Not new, now a part of ambiguity topic
15:20:11 <Steven> Topic: First Int’l Symposium on Invisible XML
15:20:25 <Steven> Steven: Eight submissions so far
15:20:46 <Steven> Norm: I have created a private repository for submissions
15:23:36 <Steven> Steven: The Zoom licence I can use looks like it is sufficient for us.
15:24:11 <Steven> Norm: Registrations?
15:24:22 <Steven> Steven: Just publish the URL and let people come
15:25:21 <Steven> John: Still meeting the 16th to look at the submissions
15:25:30 <Steven> Norm: Yes, at the same time as usual\
15:27:21 <Steven> Topic: Ambiguity umbrella topic
15:27:38 <Steven> Norm: Topic made. Whare we going to do?
15:27:52 <Steven> s/Whare/What are/
15:30:16 <Steven> Steven: The two approaches are 1) let there be ambiguity, and I'll pick one; 2) No ambiguity, handle it in the parser.
15:30:41 <Steven> Norm: There are two types of ambiguity.
15:34:27 <Steven> ... I'd like to see a document.
15:34:52 <Steven> ACTION: Steven create a discussion document on ambiguity.
15:35:07 <Steven> Topic: Perspectives on serialization
15:35:13 <Steven> Steven: Merge.
15:36:13 <Steven> Topic: Next meeting
15:38:20 <Steven> Steven: Skip the 9th, and next meeting is the 16th
15:38:39 <Steven> ... next after that will be 6th January
15:39:27 <Steven> Topic: AOB
15:39:46 <Steven> David: Is there any prep for the 16th?
15:40:23 <Steven> Norm: If there are more than 50, we will have to decide, and we can also account for how much time.
15:40:58 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
15:41:21 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:41:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/25-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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15:43:24 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:43:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/25-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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