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17:51:31 <Daniel> Meeting: PDF-AAM Task Force Teleconference
17:51:36 <Daniel> Chair: Daniel
17:51:43 <Daniel> Sccribe: Daniel
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18:03:01 <Daniel> Topic: Currently open issues
18:03:19 <Daniel> -> https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/milestone/2 Second batch milestone
18:03:46 <Paul> present+
18:03:51 <will> present+
18:03:51 <Daniel> zak: We have identified some more tables we could add
18:03:56 <Daniel> present+
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18:05:04 <Daniel> Daniel: Next target 3rd Dec but happy to review before
18:05:31 <Daniel> ... Last meeting outcome was for the PDF-AAM team to open a PR with second batch
18:05:48 <Daniel> https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/milestone/2
18:08:26 <Daniel> github: https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/issues/11
18:08:46 <Daniel> Daniel: Zak will remove these reference
18:08:58 <Daniel> Zak: I'd rather remove and then add it back
18:10:27 <Daniel> Topic: Cleanup tasks
18:10:31 <Daniel> github: https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/issues/17
18:13:04 <Daniel> Daniel: Privacy and security are top-level sections
18:15:22 <Daniel> Zak: I've got three todos left on this one
18:16:35 <Daniel> ... 2 and 3 are no longer applicable
18:17:14 <Daniel> Topic: Important terms
18:17:19 <Daniel> github: https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/issues/12
18:17:47 <Daniel> Zak: This can be closed, it's in there already
18:17:54 <Daniel> ... I just need to update it
18:19:05 <Daniel> Topic: Explanation on namespaces
18:19:08 <Daniel> github: https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/issues/21
18:19:51 <Daniel> Zak: This is already done in the branch attached to that issue
18:24:12 <Daniel> ak: Not sure if we should open it up now
18:24:29 <Daniel> ... UA1 and UA2 differences may be daunting for now
18:25:00 <Daniel> .. Or we only need to enhance our tables
18:25:15 <Daniel> ... If we are dealing with these two at the same time I'll have to update the scripts
18:25:31 <Daniel> ... If yes, we should spawn a couple sub issues
18:25:38 <Daniel> Paul: You need addditional info in your tables
18:25:49 <Daniel> ... This is really PDF1 versus PDF2
18:26:06 <Daniel> ... You have to do both completely anyway
18:26:23 <Daniel> ... Unless you run into an acctual situation where there are no differences
18:26:36 <Daniel> Zak: We have tags like footnote endnote
18:26:50 <Daniel> Paul: Add a colun for the namespace
18:27:11 <Daniel> Zak: that type of stuff needs to be explained in this section that tells how these are going to be referenced in this table
18:27:52 <Daniel> Paul: If it's not PDF2 then it's PDF1
18:28:19 <Daniel> William: Part might be
18:28:39 <Daniel> Paul: For FENote
18:28:50 <Daniel> ... Are there any tags that behave differently?
18:29:07 <Daniel> William: That's why i was wondering if we should wait until we come to this situation
18:29:21 <Daniel> Duff: document tag is an exxample
18:29:38 <Daniel> Paul: We have it in our first export
18:29:42 <Daniel> Zak: But the API is the same
18:30:14 <Daniel> Zak: From a pdf composer standpoint that's a clear difference. From the AAM mappings that hasn't changed from PDF1 to 2
18:30:26 <Daniel> Duff: list element in 2 can be clock or inline
18:30:36 <Daniel> Zak: But when you encounter it it's going to be handled the same way
18:30:46 <Daniel> Duff: Not sure
18:31:26 <Daniel> Zak: We are not writing this based on AT behaviours
18:31:56 <Daniel> William: We should specify what to do
18:32:23 <Daniel> Duff: There are technical differences that requree examination
18:32:47 <Daniel> [Zak shows current tables]
18:35:41 <Daniel> Zak: Is this realistically doable before 3rd December?
18:36:13 <Daniel> Paul: I think we should.
18:36:19 <Daniel> Zak: Can I assign to you Paul?
18:36:22 <Daniel> Paul: Yes
18:38:13 <Daniel> Topic: Alphabetizing
18:38:34 <Daniel> github: https://github.com/w3c/pdf-aam/issue/22
18:38:43 <Daniel> Zak: You could add it to the milestone and I'll take care
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