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12:01:45 <AndyS> zakim, this is Data Shapes WG
12:01:45 <Zakim> got it, AndyS
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12:02:08 <AndyS> rrsagent, make logs public
12:02:15 <simonstey> present+
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12:02:27 <AndyS> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/17-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
12:02:35 <HolgerK> present+
12:02:36 <simonstey> zakim, who's here?
12:02:36 <Zakim> Present: TallTed, edmond, Livio, AndyS, DavidHabgood, Robert, SimonW, elianaP, bergos, mgberg, Matt, Ognjen, caribou, nicholascar, HolgerK, simonstey
12:02:37 <AndyS> present+
12:02:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see bergos, RRSAgent, DavidHabgood, nicholascar, simonstey, Robert, Livio, HolgerK, AndyS, Zakim, agendabot, caribou
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12:03:29 <Robert> HolgerK: core subgroup, no substantial changes expected
12:04:19 <Robert> ... node expressions, list operations pull request
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12:06:29 <Robert> nicholascar: profiling, no changes since last week
12:07:30 <Robert> edmond: ui, feedback/reviews requested
12:09:27 <Robert> AndyS: rules, started on formal definition of evaluation
12:09:40 <AndyS> Branch WIP : Defn of rule set evaluation -- https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/tree/def-eval/shacl12-rules
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12:14:07 <Robert> ... action for transformation rules
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12:15:50 <Robert> ... can node expressions be used for transformation?
12:16:50 <Robert> No updates for compact syntax
12:17:42 <Robert> at risk notice for https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/647
12:18:03 <TallTed> present+
12:18:05 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Data Shapes WG -- 2025-11-17 agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-11-17.md
12:18:21 <Robert> AndyS: new design for sparql pre-binding
12:18:59 <Robert> ... delay the decision making
12:19:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/17-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:20:33 <Robert> HolgerK: timeline for sparql working group?
12:21:03 <Robert> AndyS: pre-binding in progress
12:21:33 <Robert> ... in some months?
12:22:16 <Robert> HolgerK: topquadrant implementation up to date
12:22:49 <Robert> nicholascar: pyshacl outdated, needs updates
12:23:17 <bergos> q+
12:23:59 <TallTed> i|zakim, who's here|meeting: Data Shapes WG|
12:23:59 <TallTed> i|zakim, who's here|agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-11-17.md|
12:23:59 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/10-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:23:59 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/24-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:25:35 <Robert> Robert checks Graphwise plans for implementation
12:26:08 <TallTed> present: nicholascar, Robert, HolgerK, AndyS, DavidHabgood, edmond, livio, matt, ognjen, simonstey, SimonW, bergos, TallTed
12:26:58 <TallTed> chair: nicholascar
12:26:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/17-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:27:22 <Robert> AndyS: plan for rules as lightweight open source project, eventually added to Jena
12:28:30 <Robert> nicholascar: rules could be developed standalone and later merged in
12:28:45 <bergos> ack me
12:29:24 <TallTed> i|zakim, who's here|scribe: Robert
12:29:34 <Robert> bergos: node expressions implemented, but needs updates
12:29:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/17-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:31:26 <bergos> SHACL playground with some 1.2 features: https://playground.rdf-ext.org/shacl-experimental/
12:31:44 <bergos> list of supported features: https://github.com/rdf-ext/shacl-engine/tree/experimental
12:36:10 <TallTed> [ adjourned ]
12:36:30 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been nicholascar, Robert, HolgerK, AndyS, DavidHabgood, edmond, livio, matt, ognjen, simonstey, SimonW, bergos, TallTed
12:36:33 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
12:36:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/17-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
12:36:40 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, TallTed; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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12:36:52 <TallTed> RRSAgent, bye
12:36:52 <RRSAgent> I see no action items