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00:29:02 <breakout-bot> Meeting: A Foundation for a Decentralized User-centric Web Mapping : The Hyper-Layering Architecture
00:29:02 <breakout-bot> Chair: Satoru Takagi
00:29:02 <breakout-bot> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/14
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01:11:51 <atsushi> topic: Presentation
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01:12:13 <atsushi> [Takagi shows 20min introduction video via screen sharing]
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01:13:18 <atsushi> i/introduction video/scribe+/
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01:28:44 <atsushi_> topic: discussion
01:32:26 <atsushi_> [17 people in room, several via zoom]
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01:37:42 <atsushi_> peter: need to gather attention and correct idea into document, and bring to W3C community for creating concete archivectural design document to be implemented in clients
01:38:12 <atsushi_> xxxx1: this distributed map system is quite useful
01:38:29 <atsushi_> ... we need more effort on this de-centerized map system
01:39:01 <atsushi_> ... want to understand a bit more, somehow implemented by KDDI as web application with gathering data from various places
01:39:15 <atsushi_> ... I guess this is not fully distributed for now
01:39:18 <atsushi_> takagi: [nods]
01:39:48 <atsushi_> xxxx1: not sure how this direction could work within W3C space
01:40:35 <atsushi_> peter: as member of open source geospatial consortium, member interested from 1990s, and community placed resources on this kind of area
01:40:55 <atsushi_> ... efforts gathered incl. getting attention from government
01:41:09 <atsushi_> mizushima: [speaked up in Japanese]
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01:43:55 <atsushi_> takagi: [replied in Japanese]
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01:48:22 <atsushi> mizushima: Although Takagi wants to standalize this system, we could form CG with charter stating this architecture, and go into IG or WG could be an option for clarifying goal and getting understanding
01:48:57 <atsushi> dynamis: [ask questions in Japanese]
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01:50:18 <atsushi> takagi: I want to discuss use cases and importance of this philosophy, getting W3C standalization may not match with this architecture to go
01:50:49 <atsushi> dynamis: following discussion, clients or browsers could support this architecture more
01:51:39 <atsushi> ... its a little complex at large even now, layering or conversion of API, if we propose browser vendor this architecture, we should clearly define key ponints of this
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01:51:52 <atsushi> takagi: need to have geo coading in CSS syntax
01:52:43 <PeterR> CSS needs to understand geospatial Coordinate Reference Systems, and especially map zoom / scale
01:53:55 <atsushi> takagi: SVG implements geo coading but stopped in 1.1 Tiny level
01:54:21 <atsushi> dynamis: even for CSS support, we could start with polyfill
01:54:41 <atsushi> takagi: [describes around his service in Japanese]
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01:59:48 <atsushi> takagi: creating new CG is not in our rader, instead we would have conversation around this architecture in Maps in thw Web CG
02:00:14 <atsushi> peter: that CG could cover that kind of area, and start research on this architecture
02:00:32 <atsushi> takagi: we need to gather attention and colleagues from around
02:01:06 <atsushi> peter: we have polifill of MapML, as well as for CSS
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