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07:54:05 <breakout-bot> Meeting: QR Codes as first class citizens of the Web
07:54:05 <breakout-bot> Chair: Phil Archer
07:54:05 <breakout-bot> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/93
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08:33:52 <ewooton> @phila leading and introducing himself as working in barcodes
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08:34:55 <vasilii> present+ Vasilii Trofimchuk
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08:37:30 <ewooton> comparison of embedded URL with different visual features - how about adding a QR code - intuitively doesn't make sense, but perhaps semi-secure QR relates to NFC tag - leading to a one time cryptographic key
08:38:03 <TabAtkins> q+
08:38:13 <ewooton> asking why people are here
08:40:23 <ewooton> answer: from web payments group - may be more a secure way to use "x" (maybe QR) to go from device to device to complete transaction
08:41:34 <phila> present+
08:41:47 <phila> chair: phila
08:41:55 <phila> scribenick: ewooton
08:41:59 <ewooton> also: is anyone working on putting QR codes on the web - chain of conversations leads to this session
08:42:54 <ewooton> may be other ways to hand off to another app except QR - but what are they - and is QR viable
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08:45:08 <TabAtkins> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Barcode_Detection_API#browser_compatibility
08:45:23 <TabAtkins> ^^^ API for recognizing a qr code out of an image
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08:46:05 <ewooton> potential for web apps to do this - suggestion that there is a way to detect QR and pass it automatically - from image or video stream - no one knows what it's called but certain it exists
08:51:20 <ewooton> Nick from 1password and group - if need to tokenize from QR - and give different options for intent of app / link goes elsewhere rather than browser / OS is complicit to make things seamless
08:53:30 <ewooton> invite user to take action - give them an element - is it better as QR than a link
08:54:40 <TabAtkins> https://tabatkins.github.io/specs/qrcode/#format
08:54:47 <ewooton> two functions - replace link with QR - or create new image format that makes image from link
08:55:54 <ewooton> javascript API can recognize a variety of barcodes
08:56:21 <ewooton> may be solved already - CSS
08:56:44 <ewooton> are there other use cases?
08:57:10 <ewooton> in addition to web payments
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08:57:27 <ewooton> yes - verifiable credentials
08:58:44 <ewooton> generally assume when using QR that the user action is pretty limited
08:59:51 <ewooton> add - barcode as a way to bridge an airgap
09:00:38 <ewooton> and also - un-airgap it - save it for later
09:02:31 <TabAtkins> a.qrcode { content: qrcode(...params..., href); }
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09:02:54 <ewooton> action is changing a link to a barcode - not extracting a link from barcode
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09:08:44 <ewooton> "pay with google maps" - as a demo proxy for how method being discussed would work - click link on device to open maps - or scan QR with mobile and maps opens on mobile
09:15:01 <vasilii_> TabAtkins, what is the css function for qr code?
09:16:30 <TabAtkins> @vasilii_ doesn't exist yet, but I imagine it'll look like `a.qrcode { content: qrcode(...params..., href); }`
09:16:44 <TabAtkins> (that's for replacing the contents of an <a> with a qrcode for its link)
09:17:13 <TabAtkins> (I'll just need to talk with someone with expertise in the area to figure out exactly what params need to be offered.)
09:17:33 <vasilii_> Ack, got it. Thanks!
09:17:38 <ewooton> what happens with text that isn't a URL? discussion follows - we don't know
09:22:05 <ewooton> we are finding differences between whether long press directs to the URL in a QR code - safari does it
09:22:51 <ewooton> be good to have an easy way to generate QR from link - less complicated than at present
09:26:29 <ewooton> maybe: selector for what to do with QR code info v pre-selected
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09:28:34 <ewooton> Thanks!
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09:29:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/12-qr-minutes.html phila
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14:00:29 <RRSAgent> I see no action items