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15:59:54 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:59:55 <julierawe> zakim, clear agenda
15:59:55 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:00:21 <julierawe> chair: julierawe
16:00:49 <julierawe> date: 10 Nov 2025
16:00:54 <julierawe> agenda+ TPAC
16:01:30 <Charli> Charli has joined #coga
16:01:47 <julierawe> agenda+ Issue papers
16:01:48 <Charli> present+
16:02:01 <julierawe> agenda+ Retitling V2 of Making Content Usable
16:02:04 <julierawe> present+
16:02:05 <Lisa> present+
16:02:50 <julierawe> regrets+ Rain, Jennie, EA, Abigail
16:03:40 <julierawe> zakim, next item
16:03:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- TPAC -- taken up [from julierawe]
16:04:01 <Eric_hind> scribe: Eric_hind
16:04:07 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AHQm5pXqsR2AymMZu4AF-5F-HqI7MagBHwaztVJHqg4/edit?tab=t.0
16:04:09 <Gareth> Gareth has joined #coga
16:04:20 <Gareth> present+
16:04:28 <julierawe> Time zones
16:04:28 <julierawe> Japan (in-person location) 9am-4pm
16:04:28 <julierawe> Boston 7pm - 2am
16:04:28 <julierawe> London 12am - 7am
16:04:29 <julierawe> Israel 2am - 9am
16:04:29 <julierawe> India 5:30am - 1:30pm
16:04:29 <julierawe> Seattle 4pm - 11pm
16:04:57 <julierawe> Registration
16:04:57 <julierawe> $90 for online-only participation
16:04:57 <julierawe> Some breakout sessions are free and open to the public, no registration needed.
16:04:57 <julierawe> Registration link: https://www.w3.org/register/tpac2025
16:04:58 <julierawe> Questions: email w3t-tpregister@w3.org
16:05:14 <Lisa> Q+
16:05:29 <kirkwood> present+
16:06:49 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AHQm5pXqsR2AymMZu4AF-5F-HqI7MagBHwaztVJHqg4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.9pfk7d1m1r3q
16:07:11 <julierawe> TPAC daily schedule: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/schedule.html#America/New_York
16:07:39 <julierawe> A few events that may be of special interest to COGA:
16:09:44 <Jan> Jan has joined #coga
16:09:49 <Jan> present+
16:10:11 <julierawe> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AHQm5pXqsR2AymMZu4AF-5F-HqI7MagBHwaztVJHqg4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.9pfk7d1m1r3q
16:10:38 <julierawe> AG working group on Monday, November 10th
16:10:38 <julierawe> Will start with 2-hour retrospective
16:10:38 <julierawe> Event link: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/5ba02c76-d748-4db0-9e2a-c73e4238ec48/
16:11:09 <Eric_hind> julierawe: AG has a session today,   retrospective on what they've been doing (7PM Boston time), 2 hours
16:11:13 <julierawe> AG working group on Monday, November 10th
16:11:13 <julierawe> Will start with 2-hour retrospective
16:11:13 <julierawe> Event link: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/5ba02c76-d748-4db0-9e2a-c73e4238ec48/
16:11:27 <julierawe> Oops, repasted the same thing
16:11:34 <julierawe> AG working group on Wednesday, November 12th
16:11:34 <julierawe> 1-hour breakout on WCAG 3 update
16:11:34 <julierawe> Event link: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/140f2455-7351-4ea9-a71d-023ad26dccfc/
16:14:57 <Lisa> Q+
16:15:10 <julierawe> ARIA/APA joint meeting
16:15:10 <julierawe> Event link: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/312f1ce1-505a-4681-9345-14c970c25911/
16:15:10 <julierawe> 13 November 2025, 13:45–15:00 Japan time
16:15:10 <julierawe> 12 November 2025 at 11:45pm – 1am Boston time
16:15:11 <julierawe> Agenda includes two topics that COGA has been working on, exploring semantics to indicate:
16:15:11 <julierawe> Key/important parts of documents
16:15:11 <julierawe> Triggering content
16:19:15 <julierawe> Lisa can you input these details on day and time?
16:19:19 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Am on the APA agenda regarding issue papers - short session on COGA issue papers
16:20:19 <Lisa> https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/schedule.html
16:21:10 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Lots of call out sesions happening on Wednesday (Japan time), APA, Maturity Model
16:21:47 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Will make a shareable list of sessions of interest with the group.
16:21:50 <Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qJPUpoyfYyXKpdfJsQabqSNmcZqTvXzu_HE0sH-Jf3M/edit?tab=t.0
16:25:11 <Lisa> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3Atpac
16:25:34 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Breakouts are shown by the previous github link
16:29:19 <julierawe> q?
16:29:24 <julierawe> ack lisa
16:29:26 <Lisa> q-
16:29:31 <Eric_hind> q+
16:29:37 <Lisa> agenda
16:29:38 <julierawe> ack Eric_hind
16:32:53 <Eric_hind> Lisa: If folks are stuck on aspects of the sessions, I will be on #coga occasionally.
16:34:02 <Jan> Are they recording any of these sessions for people to view later?
16:35:12 <Eric_hind> julierawe: That hasn't been mentioned (about recording the sessions)
16:35:31 <julierawe> zakim, next item
16:35:31 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Issue papers -- taken up [from julierawe]
16:35:57 <Lisa> not in, full citations
16:35:57 <Lisa> credits.
16:35:57 <Lisa> I will put the credits in before publications so we can check them, but in the mean time
16:36:09 <Lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/research-modules-wd-1/issue-papers/index.html
16:36:09 <Lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/research-modules-wd-1/issue-papers/Conversational-Voice-Systems.html
16:36:09 <Lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/research-modules-wd-1/issue-papers/Supported-Decision-Making.html
16:36:09 <Lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/research-modules-wd-1/issue-papers/Online-Safety-and-Wellbeing.html
16:36:11 <Lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/research-modules-wd-1/issue-papers/Technology-Assisted-Indoor-Navigation-and-Wayfindings.html (user needs are not in -will need an editors note)
16:36:57 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Need citation section inserted (but link to citations doc is there).
16:37:52 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Cover document has updated modules and old documents
16:38:05 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Significant contributors not yet added.
16:39:00 <julierawe> q+
16:39:12 <Lisa> ack next
16:40:18 <julierawe> Lisa will change "Issue Papers" to "Research modules" in the titles for each paper
16:41:17 <julierawe> q+
16:43:31 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Supported decision making review will be Tuesday 1AM EST.    We can have a follow up session after.
16:44:47 <Eric_hind> julierawe: shared decision-making is a recently added term, maybe worth taking out as it is a separate 'lane'
16:44:54 <Lisa> ack next
16:46:46 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Safety and Well being might be a good one to bring up as well - does have content related to algorithms and AI, curated content.
16:48:20 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Wayfinding paper is still missing user needs section.  Should we show folks or not.
16:49:23 <kirkwood> +1
16:49:30 <Eric_hind> +1
16:51:03 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Lack of title reference to 'digital'.  Paper is not clear in the title, could be virtual, web, etc.
16:51:33 <Gareth> I need to drop out, catch up Thursday.
16:51:47 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Suggest adding technology wording to the title.
16:52:18 <julierawe> Suggest changing the title to "Technology-Assisted Navigation (Wayfinding)"
16:53:02 <Eric_hind> charli: Found title confusing, agree with revising title to give clarity about the subject of the wayfinding.
16:54:15 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Objections to APA having a look at these issue papers?
16:54:17 <julierawe> q+
16:54:31 <Lisa> ack next
16:56:58 <Eric_hind> Lisa: Are we OK with sharing what we have with APA and AG?
16:56:58 <julierawe> Call for consensus to share these draft modules with APA and the AG?
16:56:58 <julierawe> +1 if you agree
16:56:58 <julierawe> 0 if you're not sure
16:56:58 <julierawe> -1 if you have objection
16:57:13 <Eric_hind> +1
16:57:14 <julierawe> +1
16:57:26 <Lisa> i will change the names
16:57:34 <kirkwood> +1
16:57:53 <kirkwood> present+
16:58:02 <julierawe> q+
16:59:42 <Eric_hind> julierawe: Recommend guideance on assessing issues - major, minor, etc.
17:00:57 <Lisa> agree to share  documents more or less as is, do a call for concer, with acnolmgments seprate
17:01:23 <julierawe> Does everyone agree to share these draft modules as is and we'll do a separate call for consensus about the acknowledgements (which have not been written yet)?
17:01:23 <julierawe> +1 if you agree
17:01:23 <julierawe> 0 if you're not sure
17:01:23 <julierawe> -1 if you object
17:02:14 <Eric_hind> +1
17:02:17 <Lisa> +1
17:02:18 <Charli> +1
17:02:18 <julierawe> +1
17:02:22 <kirkwood> +1
17:03:39 <julierawe> Action item: Lisa  to send the links with guidance on how to provide feedback (specifying whether a comment is a showstopper or not)
17:03:49 <julierawe> rrsagent, make minutes
17:03:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/10-coga-minutes.html julierawe