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12:56:18 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Data Shapes WG -- 2025-11-03 agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-11-03.md
12:56:20 <TallTed> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-11-03.md
12:56:21 <agendabot> clear agenda
12:56:21 <agendabot> agenda+ Discussion
12:56:21 <agendabot> agenda+ Process
12:56:21 <agendabot> agenda+ Email for public review
12:56:22 <TallTed> meeting: Data Shapes WG
12:56:32 <TallTed> chair: nicholascar
12:58:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/03-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
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12:59:39 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/10/27-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:59:39 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/10-data-shapes-minutes.html
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13:02:23 <TallTed> Zakim, next item
13:02:23 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Discussion -- taken up [from agendabot]
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13:03:10 <edmond> Topic: Task Force Reports
13:03:17 <AndyS> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:03:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/03-data-shapes-minutes.html AndyS
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13:05:51 <TallTed> zakim, next item
13:05:51 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Process -- taken up [from agendabot]
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13:06:19 <TallTed> subTopic: Task Force Reports
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13:06:43 <edmond> HolgerK: Core: mostly editorial with a PR merged in by bergos today.
13:06:43 <edmond> ... SPARQL: No updates
13:06:43 <edmond> ... Node Expressions: A PR waiting for approval for the SPARQL function change
13:06:43 <edmond> ... simonstey will work on a PR towards getting it out of draft
13:06:44 <edmond> ... We are at a good point now after the above PR is complete to start working on the test cases.
13:08:03 <simonstey> this was the other PR HolgerK was talking about: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/526
13:08:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/03-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:09:39 <edmond> nicholascar: Profiling: added a few use cases to GitHub issues
13:09:39 <edmond> ... Profiling packaging mechanics using owl:imports with added examples on a PR
13:09:39 <edmond> ... Thanks TallTed on reviewing the PR and working on some of the language of the document
13:09:39 <edmond> ... Once the pull request is merged, I will forward it to the Data Exchange WG to demonstrate usage evidence of the Profiles Vocabulary.
13:12:33 <edmond> edmond: UI: One/Two PRs merged and still discussing core UI concepts
13:12:33 <edmond> AndyS: Rules: A couple of use cases for rules from the Australian Biodiversity Data Repository project.
13:12:48 <edmond> Sorry AndyS, I missed your update for the notes
13:13:11 <edmond> elianaP: Compact Syntax Update: No update from members
13:13:30 <AndyS> There will be a rule TF meeting tomorrow (4th Nov) to discuss the content of the rules doc.
13:13:59 <edmond> HolgerK: Thanks to nicholascar for fixing the GitHub Actions build. Search engines will now properly index the published documents
13:14:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/03-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:14:21 <AndyS> s/AndyS: Rules:/nicholascar: Rules: /
13:14:27 <edmond> Topic: Wide Review
13:15:45 <TallTed> note that Rules TF is now at 5am ET, 2am PT, making attendance even less likely for most if not all US, Canada, etc.
13:16:09 <AndyS> q+
13:16:20 <bergos> present+
13:16:22 <edmond> nicholascar: Sending out an email summarising the SHACL 1.2 in the Overview document and a couple of others. Could the group review the documents in the agenda and see whether anyone objects to the wide review.
13:16:33 <nicholascar> ack AndyS
13:17:17 <edmond> AndyS: Not a lot of time for the end of the month. RDF WG aims to have a 2 month review. Perhaps we could make it till the end of December.
13:17:42 <edmond> nicholascar: To contact RDF and SPARQL WGs
13:19:30 <AndyS> s/WGs/WG/
13:20:05 <edmond> nicholascar: I've done the self assessment accessibility review, mainly for UI.
13:20:05 <edmond> ... Will check to see if SHACL Core document meets the structural semantics
13:20:05 <edmond> ... At the end of the review period, will move to CR.
13:21:18 <edmond> caribou: Suggest creating a GitHub issue relating to Core and SPARQL's review and also create issues in the other relevant GitHub repositories to track this.
13:24:10 <TallTed> q+
13:24:26 <edmond> HolgerK: Is there a chance to move the meeting an hour earlier for the members in QLD, Australia?
13:24:27 <nicholascar> ack TallTed
13:25:02 <mgberg> q+
13:25:03 <edmond> TallTed: It will be 7AM if we shift it an hour earlier for some US members
13:26:28 <edmond> nicholascar: Should we do a poll?
13:26:34 <bergos> q+
13:26:45 <nicholascar> ack bergos
13:27:16 <edmond> bergos: We could alternate every week for one hour earlier and the current time
13:27:34 <HolgerK> earlier
13:27:35 <nicholascar> split or earlier
13:27:35 <simonstey> -1 split; +0 don't care for earlier/later
13:27:41 <DavidHabgood> split or earlier
13:27:46 <edmond> earlier
13:27:47 <mgberg> split or earlier
13:27:55 <elianaP> earlier
13:27:57 <SimonW> Split or Earlier
13:28:04 <caribou> 0
13:28:05 <TallTed> split or later ... though split will lose lots of people to confusion
13:28:09 <AndyS> -1 split (people forget), 0 for slot.
13:28:11 <Livio> 0
13:28:15 <bergos> 0
13:28:25 <Robert> -1 split
13:30:07 <edmond> nicholascar: Group decision - move it an hour earlier
13:30:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/03-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:49:47 <AndyS> zakim, end meeting
13:49:47 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been TallTed, nicholascar, caribou, elianaP, simonstey, AndyS, HolgerK, Robert, SimonW, DavidHabgood, bergos
13:49:50 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:49:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/11/03-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
13:49:56 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, AndyS; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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13:50:05 <AndyS> rrsagent, please leave
13:50:05 <RRSAgent> I see no action items