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15:51:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/30-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
15:52:04 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/10/23-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:52:05 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/06-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:52:25 <TallTed> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/11e4d020-9c58-4fff-83c5-37c9e2502295/20251030T120000/
15:52:25 <agendabot> clear agenda
15:52:25 <agendabot> agenda+ Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2025/10/23-rdf-star-minutes.html
15:52:25 <agendabot> agenda+ ISWC & TPAC weeks
15:52:25 <agendabot> agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3
15:52:26 <agendabot> agenda+ Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8
15:52:36 <TallTed> meeting: RDF & SPARQL WG
15:52:48 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF & SPARQL WG -- 2025-10-30 agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/11e4d020-9c58-4fff-83c5-37c9e2502295/20251030T120000/
15:53:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/30-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
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16:01:58 <ora> chair+
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16:02:47 <AndyS> scribe: AndyS
16:02:55 <gtw> present+
16:03:01 <ktk> present+
16:03:04 <pfps> next week is ISWC, are we meeting?
16:03:32 <ktk> regrets+ niklasl, tl
16:03:42 <ktk> Zakim, open item 1
16:03:42 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2025/10/23-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:28 <pfps> minutes look O
16:04:30 <william-vw> +1
16:04:32 <pfps> s/O/OK/
16:04:34 <ora> PROPOSAL: Approve last week's minutes
16:04:36 <pfps> +1
16:04:38 <ora> +1
16:04:38 <ktk> +1
16:04:43 <AndyS> +1
16:04:45 <pchampin> +0 (was not here)
16:04:47 <gtw> +1
16:04:56 <TallTed> +1
16:04:58 <ora> RESOLVED: Approve last week's minutes
16:05:06 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:05:06 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- ISWC & TPAC weeks -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:05:42 <pfps> I'll be in Japan
16:06:07 <AndyS> ora: It's about midnight in Japan at this slot.
16:06:11 <pchampin> I'll be in Japan as well, so unable to join
16:06:40 <AndyS> ... some people will be at Japan ISWC and unlikely to be on the call.
16:07:11 <AndyS> ora: TPAC: slot Tuesday morning (local)
16:07:39 <AndyS> ... I can join remotely.
16:07:42 <ktk> Agenda entry for TPAC: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/95b183fd-41bb-4f92-b013-b69121090498/
16:08:11 <AndyS> ktk: 11 November 2025
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16:09:09 <AndyS> ora: that weeks WG regular meeting - I prose keeping the meeting.
16:09:11 <pchampin> q+
16:09:18 <ora> ack pchampin
16:09:51 <AndyS> pchampin: registrants 5 people registered at TPAC. 2 are observers.
16:10:14 <AndyS> ora: Keep the WG meetings.
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16:10:35 <TallTed> present+
16:10:38 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:10:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:10:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/30-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
16:11:08 <pchampin> q?
16:11:32 <AndyS> pchampin: action 179. Can close this action.
16:12:05 <AndyS> ... some items marked "propose closing". Keep Turtle as the syntax root.
16:12:13 <ktk> q+
16:12:30 <ora> ack ktk
16:12:48 <AndyS> ktk: please add the final picture
16:12:53 <AndyS> pchampin: OK
16:14:10 <AndyS> q+
16:14:48 <AndyS> pchampin: Can publish N-triples while Turtle is one step behind.
16:14:49 <ktk> scribe+
16:14:50 <ora> ack AndyS
16:14:56 <pfps> present+
16:15:15 <ktk> AndyS: Turtle as a root, you mean related syntaxes but not RDF/XML
16:15:20 <Souri> q+
16:15:29 <ktk> pchampin: yes
16:15:59 <ora> ack Souri
16:16:01 <ktk> scribe-
16:16:35 <AndyS> souri: N-Triples depends on Turtle -- I see NT as the primary form.
16:17:47 <AndyS> pchampin: Obe vie if building n-triples -> Turtle etc. Nowadays Turtle has the common text. Hard to undo.
16:18:28 <AndyS> s/Obe view if/One view is/
16:18:49 <AndyS> ... suggest we keep things as they are.
16:18:52 <AndyS> q+
16:18:58 <ora> ack AndyS
16:19:49 <AndyS> AndyS: Turtle has intro material. Best to keep it there.
16:20:27 <AndyS> pchampin: Echidna action can be closed (#55)
16:20:28 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/55 -> Action 55 set up echidna in all RDF&SPARQL WG GH repositories (on pchampin) due 27 Apr 2023
16:21:37 <AndyS> pchampin: #183  is done
16:21:37 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/183 -> CLOSED Action 183 add a summary of the main changes since RDF 1.1 in rdf-concepts (on pchampin) due 2025-10-23
16:21:48 <ktk> Zakim, next item
16:21:48 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:24:27 <pchampin> q+
16:26:18 <ora> ack pchampin
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16:37:10 <ktk> q?
16:42:26 <pchampin> q+
16:42:45 <ora> ack pchampin
16:50:18 <AndyS> doerthe: Proofexists , not added yet.
16:50:34 <AndyS> s/Proofexists/Proof exists/
16:51:47 <AndyS> ora: About "Appendix C: Proof of  some results"
16:52:54 <AndyS> ... and appendix A: Entailment rules. PR exists.
16:53:37 <AndyS> q+
16:54:51 <AndyS> ora: Do all specs need to go to REC at once?
16:55:16 <AndyS> pchampin: Not all at once, subject to normative reference rules.
16:55:35 <AndyS> q-
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