IRC log of rdf-star on 2025-10-30

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logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/10/30-rdf-star-irc
15:51:23 [Zakim]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/30-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
15:52:04 [TallTed]
previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/10/23-rdf-star-minutes.html
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next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/11/06-rdf-star-minutes.html
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agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/11e4d020-9c58-4fff-83c5-37c9e2502295/20251030T120000/
15:52:25 [agendabot]
clear agenda
15:52:25 [agendabot]
agenda+ Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2025/10/23-rdf-star-minutes.html
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agenda+ ISWC & TPAC weeks
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agenda+ Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3
15:52:26 [agendabot]
agenda+ Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8
15:52:36 [TallTed]
meeting: RDF & SPARQL WG
15:52:48 [TallTed]
TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF & SPARQL WG -- 2025-10-30 agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/11e4d020-9c58-4fff-83c5-37c9e2502295/20251030T120000/
15:53:06 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/30-rdf-star-minutes.html TallTed
15:59:12 [ora]
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16:00:06 [william-vw]
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present+
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16:01:33 [ora]
present+
16:01:41 [AndyS]
present+
16:01:42 [pchampin]
present+
16:01:58 [ora]
chair+
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16:02:47 [AndyS]
scribe: AndyS
16:02:55 [gtw]
present+
16:03:01 [ktk]
present+
16:03:04 [pfps]
next week is ISWC, are we meeting?
16:03:32 [ktk]
regrets+ niklasl, tl
16:03:42 [ktk]
Zakim, open item 1
16:03:42 [Zakim]
agendum 1 -- Approval of last week’s minutes: -> 1 https://www.w3.org/2025/10/23-rdf-star-minutes.html -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:04:28 [pfps]
minutes look O
16:04:30 [william-vw]
+1
16:04:32 [pfps]
s/O/OK/
16:04:34 [ora]
PROPOSAL: Approve last week's minutes
16:04:36 [pfps]
+1
16:04:38 [ora]
+1
16:04:38 [ktk]
+1
16:04:43 [AndyS]
+1
16:04:45 [pchampin]
+0 (was not here)
16:04:47 [gtw]
+1
16:04:56 [TallTed]
+1
16:04:58 [ora]
RESOLVED: Approve last week's minutes
16:05:06 [ktk]
Zakim, next item
16:05:06 [Zakim]
agendum 2 -- ISWC & TPAC weeks -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:05:42 [pfps]
I'll be in Japan
16:06:07 [AndyS]
ora: It's about midnight in Japan at this slot.
16:06:11 [pchampin]
I'll be in Japan as well, so unable to join
16:06:40 [AndyS]
... some people will be at Japan ISWC and unlikely to be on the call.
16:07:11 [AndyS]
ora: TPAC: slot Tuesday morning (local)
16:07:39 [AndyS]
... I can join remotely.
16:07:42 [ktk]
Agenda entry for TPAC: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/95b183fd-41bb-4f92-b013-b69121090498/
16:08:11 [AndyS]
ktk: 11 November 2025
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present+
16:09:09 [AndyS]
ora: that weeks WG regular meeting - I prose keeping the meeting.
16:09:11 [pchampin]
q+
16:09:18 [ora]
ack pchampin
16:09:51 [AndyS]
pchampin: registrants 5 people registered at TPAC. 2 are observers.
16:10:14 [AndyS]
ora: Keep the WG meetings.
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present+
16:10:35 [TallTed]
present+
16:10:38 [ktk]
Zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Review of open actions, available at -> 2 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/3 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:10:50 [RRSAgent]
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16:11:08 [pchampin]
q?
16:11:32 [AndyS]
pchampin: action 179. Can close this action.
16:12:05 [AndyS]
... some items marked "propose closing". Keep Turtle as the syntax root.
16:12:13 [ktk]
q+
16:12:30 [ora]
ack ktk
16:12:48 [AndyS]
ktk: please add the final picture
16:12:53 [AndyS]
pchampin: OK
16:14:10 [AndyS]
q+
16:14:48 [AndyS]
pchampin: Can publish N-triples while Turtle is one step behind.
16:14:49 [ktk]
scribe+
16:14:50 [ora]
ack AndyS
16:14:56 [pfps]
present+
16:15:15 [ktk]
AndyS: Turtle as a root, you mean related syntaxes but not RDF/XML
16:15:20 [Souri]
q+
16:15:29 [ktk]
pchampin: yes
16:15:59 [ora]
ack Souri
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scribe-
16:16:35 [AndyS]
souri: N-Triples depends on Turtle -- I see NT as the primary form.
16:17:47 [AndyS]
pchampin: Obe vie if building n-triples -> Turtle etc. Nowadays Turtle has the common text. Hard to undo.
16:18:28 [AndyS]
s/Obe view if/One view is/
16:18:49 [AndyS]
... suggest we keep things as they are.
16:18:52 [AndyS]
q+
16:18:58 [ora]
ack AndyS
16:19:49 [AndyS]
AndyS: Turtle has intro material. Best to keep it there.
16:20:27 [AndyS]
pchampin: Echidna action can be closed (#55)
16:20:28 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/55 -> Action 55 set up echidna in all RDF&SPARQL WG GH repositories (on pchampin) due 27 Apr 2023
16:21:37 [AndyS]
pchampin: #183 is done
16:21:37 [gb]
https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/183 -> CLOSED Action 183 add a summary of the main changes since RDF 1.1 in rdf-concepts (on pchampin) due 2025-10-23
16:21:48 [ktk]
Zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- Identifying issues to solve before CR -> 3 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/8 -- taken up [from agendabot]
16:24:27 [pchampin]
q+
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ack pchampin
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16:37:10 [ktk]
q?
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q+
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ack pchampin
16:50:18 [AndyS]
doerthe: Proofexists , not added yet.
16:50:34 [AndyS]
s/Proofexists/Proof exists/
16:51:47 [AndyS]
ora: About "Appendix C: Proof of some results"
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... and appendix A: Entailment rules. PR exists.
16:53:37 [AndyS]
q+
16:54:51 [AndyS]
ora: Do all specs need to go to REC at once?
16:55:16 [AndyS]
pchampin: Not all at once, subject to normative reference rules.
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q-
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