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14:54:36 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:54:36 <julierawe> zakim, clear agenda
14:54:36 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:54:41 <julierawe> meeting: COGA guidance subgroup call
14:54:50 <julierawe> chair: julierawe
14:54:59 <julierawe> Meeting: COGA Guidance Subgroup Call
14:55:08 <julierawe> Date: 30 Oct 2025
14:56:30 <julierawe> Agenda+ Recap of Oct 23rd guidance subgroup meeting
14:57:03 <julierawe> Agenda+ Finish aligning on pattern about interactive elements (controls)
14:57:06 <julierawe> present+
14:58:46 <julierawe> 1st item in “What to do”: Align on Rain’s suggestion to include a few links in a call-out box instead of a longer wiki that will be harder to update/keep current over time.
14:58:58 <julierawe> 3rd item in “What to do”: Align on adding a placeholder sentence and editor’s note about a soon-to-be-published study that makes clear there is a cognitive reason why we are overlapping with two WCAG 2.2 patterns about target size.
14:59:09 <julierawe> Exception[s]: Should the current exception remain in its current location or be moved higher up in the "What to do" section? And should we add another exception about security?
14:59:32 <julierawe> Gareth suggestions for the illustrations and captions.
15:00:38 <Lisa> present+
15:02:14 <julierawe> zakim, next item
15:02:14 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Recap of Oct 23rd guidance subgroup meeting -- taken up [from julierawe]
15:02:31 <julierawe> We aligned on new title for pattern: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uAVRkNIgd3XlUIGQ6Gq-ZOcnwsFvIM9UJ1dNyHq8NSQ/edit?pli=1&tab=t.ht1sood1wqs8
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15:03:04 <julierawe> We also aligned on where to put the personalization info (at end of the "Key considerations" section)
15:03:26 <julierawe> Pattern we're reviewing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uAVRkNIgd3XlUIGQ6Gq-ZOcnwsFvIM9UJ1dNyHq8NSQ/edit?pli=1&tab=t.ht1sood1wqs8
15:03:35 <julierawe> zakim, next item
15:03:35 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Finish aligning on pattern about interactive elements (controls) -- taken up [from julierawe]
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15:40:19 <julierawe> 1st item in “What to do”: Align on Rain’s suggestion to include a few links in a call-out box instead of a longer wiki that will be harder to update/keep current over time.
15:40:44 <julierawe> We aligned on doing a short call-out box instead of a wiki. We also change the brand names to "Desktop, mobile, and other platforms."
15:41:09 <julierawe> Lisa adjusted the pattern name to avoid "Ensure"
16:00:20 <julierawe> 3rd item in “What to do”: Align on adding a placeholder sentence and editor’s note about a soon-to-be-published study that makes clear there is a cognitive reason why we are overlapping with two WCAG 2.2 patterns about target size.
16:00:53 <julierawe> We aligned on mentioning the soon-to-be-published study. The editor's note will help us remember to update this before we publish the full V2 document.
16:04:20 <julierawe> Exception[s]: Should the current exception remain in its current location or be moved higher up in the "What to do" section? And should we add another exception about security?
16:05:12 <julierawe> We ran out of time and did not get to discuss the exception[s]/ We stopped reviewing after we finished the "Do" example's illustration and caption in #4 in "What to do."
16:05:21 <julierawe> Will finish the rest of the patten next week.
16:05:40 <julierawe> Thanks again to Gareth for drafting the illustrations!
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16:06:26 <julierawe> present+ Len, who joined about halfway through the meeting
16:06:40 <julierawe> present+ lbeasley
16:06:48 <julierawe> Len joined about halfway through the meeting
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