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13:34:57 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:35:15 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:35:21 <janina> Date: 29 Oct 2025
13:35:30 <janina> Chair: Matthew_Atkinson
13:41:55 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:41:55 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2025
13:41:55 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
13:41:55 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
13:41:55 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
13:41:58 <janina> agenda+ Other business
13:42:00 <janina> agenda+ Be done
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14:00:33 <janina>  regrets: Fredrik_Fischer, Gottfried_Zimmerman
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14:01:36 <matatk> agenda?
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14:03:11 <janina> scribe+
14:03:21 <janina> zakim, next item
14:03:21 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
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14:04:07 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:04:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/29-apa-minutes.html matatk
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14:04:28 <matatk> topic: Publishing Maintenance WG call tomorrow
14:04:34 <tsaulter> present+
14:04:41 <matatk> calendar: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/d4de58aa-59e8-4071-83d9-d7ff2c795858/20251030T090000/
14:04:50 <matatk> requirements document: https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/wiki/Standardizing-Extended-Descriptions:-User-Stories,-Testing-Results,-and-Current-Limitations/
14:06:05 <janina> Details in the invite ... Matt reviews them ...
14:07:21 <JenStrickland> Hurray for longdesc!
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14:13:57 <matatk> janina: I think the challenge before was the requirement to go back to exactly where you were when you followed the link to the description.
14:14:09 <matatk> janina: That would be a good feature for the platform.
14:14:16 <matatk> PaulG: That's not in ePub, or the browser, or both?
14:14:20 <matatk> janina: both
14:14:38 <matatk> PaulG: It's like 2 lines of JS in any browser - store and re-set the scroll position
14:15:12 <matatk> PaulG: It's not native, of course, but relevant. I use it n long-form content where people are expected to follow links.
14:15:49 <janina> Discussion of historical browser concerns with longdesc mechanism
14:15:59 <matatk> matatk: Challenges involving cursor/virtual cursor/focus? Flaky?
14:16:22 <janina> Paul suggests a simple json can support return to specific location with an Alt+Left-Arrow
14:16:22 <matatk> PaulG: that's something we may need - possible enhancement to ARIA? At element or page level.
14:16:32 <matatk> ... 'take me back to where I was' feature
14:18:30 <janina> Any further thoughts/questions?
14:19:11 <JenStrickland> q+
14:19:35 <matatk> ack JenStrickland
14:20:10 <matatk> JenStrickland: Concern around relying on JS due to low connectivity scenarios.
14:22:03 <matatk> matatk: Notes TAG's gaps repo: https://github.com/w3ctag/gaps/issues
14:23:46 <janina> zakim, next item
14:23:46 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2025 -- taken up [from janina]
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14:24:08 <matatk> agenda?
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14:26:33 <janina> Notes early schedules are now available
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14:27:43 <janina> Matt notes we have open APA time scheduled
14:27:48 <janina> zakim, next item
14:27:48 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
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14:29:24 <janina> Neha assigned ....
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14:30:42 <matatk> subtopic: DAPT
14:30:43 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/124
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14:32:09 <matatk> subtopic: Web Sustainability Guidelines
14:32:19 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/133
14:32:57 <janina> Notes group is meeting with AGWG at TPAC
14:33:15 <janina> Would also be of interest to APA -- Suggests participation
14:34:31 <janina> Glenda offers to work with Jen ...
14:34:57 <JenStrickland> Note: JenStrickland is assigned to 133 as the person who opened the issue, so I'm rep'ing the Sustainable Web Interest Group on that one.
14:35:33 <janina> Matt reviews APA's new process ... Will help with organizing the review/response
14:36:54 <matatk> subtopic: CSS Color Adjust
14:36:55 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/130
14:37:04 <janina> subtopic: CSS Color Adjust
14:37:11 <janina> No concerns found yet
14:37:55 <matatk> PaulG: Could cite WCAG 2.2
14:38:00 <matatk> janina: That' a global problem we need to resolve
14:38:23 <matatk> matatk: I think this may've been solved in another recent review; will try to dig it out.
14:38:33 <janina> Paul: concern to support user themes but also brand colors
14:39:02 <Glenda> I use WCAG 2.x (to reference things that are the same across WCAG at the 2 level)
14:39:32 <janina> matt: think wcag/latest in spec ref
14:39:48 <janina> . maybe called web ref
14:40:09 <matatk> subtopioc: DVB request
14:40:10 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/132
14:40:37 <janina> s/subtopioc/subtopic/
14:40:46 <Roy_Ruoxi> q+
14:41:07 <matatk> qck Roy_Ruoxi
14:41:08 <janina> ack r
14:41:38 <janina> Roy: There's formal liaiason with W3C
14:42:12 <Glenda> From the document, “The DVB Project is an industry-led consortium of broadcasters, manufacturers, network operators, software developers,
14:42:13 <Glenda> regulators and others from around the world committed to designing open, interoperable technical specifications for the
14:42:14 <Glenda> global delivery of digital media and broadcast services. DVB specifications cover all aspects of digital television from
14:42:15 <Glenda> transmission through interfacing, conditional access and interactivity for digital video, audio and data. The consortium
14:42:16 <Glenda> came together in 1993.”
14:42:16 <janina> . PLH believes would be good to review, and Kevin reviewing for AGWG
14:42:35 <janina> . concern about overlap with W3C standard
14:42:46 <Glenda> q+
14:43:40 <matatk> janina: What is the status of this doc? like FPWD, or already done and implemented, and we can't make changes?
14:43:51 <matatk> ack Glenda
14:44:32 <janina> Glenda: Seems relevant to me in terms of where and how we "watch" video content; Just TV, phones, etc
14:44:43 <Roy_Ruoxi> q+
14:44:43 <janina> . notes captions, sign-language, descriptions, etc
14:45:13 <Roy_Ruoxi> q-
14:45:17 <janina> matatk: notes not web based; though a web rendering agent may be used in the closed system
14:45:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> q+
14:46:09 <Glenda> I can watch DirectTV from my web browser..and I do it.   i’m not using an app when I do this.
14:46:15 <janina> Roy_Ruoxi: MEIG also wants to review
14:46:42 <Roy_Ruoxi> https://dvb.org/news/draft-update-to-dvb-accessibility-implementation-guidelines-feedback-invited/
14:46:44 <janina> janina: Suggests we should all coordinate about who reviews what
14:46:54 <janina> matatk: We have AGWG, MEIG, us ...
14:47:02 <janina> zakim, next item
14:47:02 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, janina
14:47:08 <janina> q?
14:47:12 <janina> ack ro
14:47:15 <Roy_Ruoxi> ack R
14:47:16 <janina> zakim, next item
14:47:17 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:47:25 <matatk> subtopic: A way to make autoplay respect prefers-reduced-motion
14:47:34 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/255
14:48:24 <janina> autoplay=unless-preferes-reduced-motion type of thing being proposed
14:49:37 <janina> matatk: Noting lots of support from a11y folks
14:49:46 <janina> matatk: also suggestion to generalize
14:49:53 <matatk> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11605#issuecomment-3239220589
14:51:03 <JenStrickland> +1
14:51:07 <PaulG> +1
14:51:10 <Glenda> +1
14:51:23 <Eric_hind> +1
14:51:35 <janina> matatk: Does everyone agree with respect prefers less motion?
14:51:38 <janina> +1
14:51:44 <janina> the votes pertain to Matt's q
14:52:05 <matatk> +1
14:52:25 <JenStrickland> q+
14:52:33 <Roy_Ruoxi> s/PLH/talked to PLH and W3C strategy team, /
14:52:40 <JenStrickland> q-
14:52:54 <matatk> subtopic: [css-fonts-5] Text Fitting: Default scaling limit
14:53:00 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/262
14:55:22 <janina> PaulG: Willco, need to grok
14:55:28 <janina> matatk: Also I
14:55:40 <janina> . we could ask for example to clarify
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14:56:21 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
14:56:21 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Fazio, Eric_hind, JenStrickland, matatk, Roy_Ruoxi, PaulG, tsaulter, stevef, Glenda
14:56:23 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:56:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/29-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:56:30 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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14:56:56 <janina> Do you have Maturity telecon coordinates?
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