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18:22:51 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
18:23:22 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge (A11yEdge) Community Group Teleconference
18:23:32 <janina> date 15 Oct 2025
18:23:36 <janina> Chair: Janina
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18:30:36 <Mike3> Present
18:30:50 <janina> present+
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18:30:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:31:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Jason
18:31:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
18:31:05 <Zakim> Present: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason
18:31:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, Mike3, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina
18:31:15 <Mike3> Present+
18:31:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
18:31:19 <Zakim> Present: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason, Mike
18:31:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, Mike3, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina
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18:46:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: 1.3
18:46:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
18:46:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: 1.3
18:47:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Move "While overlays..." to be the closing sentence of the paragraph
18:47:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Check the <ul> list markup, as we should get two number 1. and 2.
18:47:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Move "We cross-reference the internationally accepted WCAG..." to the next section
18:50:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Section 1.4
18:51:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Suggest the three headings to be 1.2 Post-Source and "Edge".... 1.3 Post-source and Overlays 1.4 Post-Source and WCAG
18:54:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Suggest removing, "Our focus is user-centered and outcome-driven. "
18:54:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this is redundant with the next sentence
18:55:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: The sentence we deleted from 1.3, "We cross-reference the internationally accepted WCAG Success Criteria throughout our publication because they remain valid whether applied in source or post-source."
18:55:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... add it as the close of 1.4
18:59:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Try this, "Accessibility is user-centered and outcome-driven."
19:00:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Move the sentence closing 1.3, to close 1.4
19:06:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Can move "The wide range of specific web accessibility outcomes sought in this document can be accomplished through the application of appropriate post-source methods. without recourse to additional UI elements such as pop-up control panels or accessibility widgets." up into scope
19:06:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: It can be C. following A. and B. in scope
19:06:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... after 'initially'
19:07:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: 1.5
19:08:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We can update the Web Almanac to a more recent year
19:08:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We'll need the new numbers and the new link
19:12:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Move "In the main,".... to be in the white space after 1. Introduction and before 1.1 scope
19:12:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... change "Note"  to read Post-Source and Privacy
19:13:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Blue colored formatting
19:13:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger" WCAG Reference Cross references to the WCAG specification
19:13:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the word "Cross Refernces" is blue colored. check that the markup is terminated properly
19:14:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Find the announcement paragraph
19:14:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: I will look for it.
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19:23:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Anticipating Reactions
19:23:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: People will say, "in theory sounds great... they will ask for demonstrations
19:24:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: We could contribute to the Knowbility AIR event next year
19:24:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... https://knowbility.org/programs/air
19:24:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:24:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/15-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:27:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Chris
19:27:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
19:27:27 <Zakim> Present: janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason, Mike, Chris
19:27:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina
19:28:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: People may give feedback to this document, even while their signature appears on the 'fact sheet'
19:28:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I do hope people will read the entire document, I am concerned that people will read only portions
19:29:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we will need to react with 'what makes you say that', asking them to account for their reactions
19:29:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
19:29:34 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason, Mike, Chris
19:29:36 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:29:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/15-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
19:29:44 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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19:34:33 <janina> rrsagent, bye
19:34:33 <RRSAgent> I see no action items