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14:58:06 <dbooth> Chair: David Booth
14:58:11 <dbooth> Meeting: FHIR RDF
15:22:12 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 178
15:22:36 <dbooth> tim: How to generate the class names for unnamed FHIR structures?
15:22:49 <dbooth> AGREED: Use the Elment Id, eg in https://hl7.org/fhir/observation-definitions.html#Observation.referenceRange
15:26:30 <dbooth> tim: [[
15:26:32 <dbooth> {
15:26:32 <dbooth>       "id" : "Observation.component:DiastolicBP",
15:26:32 <dbooth>       "path" : "Observation.component",
15:26:32 <dbooth> https://build.fhir.org/bp.profile.json.html
15:26:34 <dbooth> ]]
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15:33:06 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 182
15:33:13 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/182
15:48:52 <dbooth> (Group is leaning toward option 4, but discussing whether to use a different namespace for ALL FHIR datatypes -- not only primitives)
15:54:40 <dbooth> AGREED: Option 4, but use the same fhirdt: prefix for all FHIR datatypes
15:56:02 <dbooth> ACTION: Tim to update PR https://github.com/HL7/kindling/pull/200
16:02:12 <dbooth> Topic: issue 181
16:02:14 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/181
16:03:25 <dbooth> AGREED: Eliminate unused namespaces from fhir.ttl ontology
16:04:35 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 175
16:05:47 <dbooth> tim: Strucute defs can be used to done, e.g., an OMOP model
16:06:20 <dbooth> tim: https://build.fhir.org/logical.html
16:06:27 <dbooth> tim: https://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/fhir-omop-ig/StructureDefinition-Episode.html
16:07:12 <dbooth> ericp: Use case: you want to use FHIR's schema abilities.  FSH encourages you to build your own models using FHIR types.
16:08:03 <dbooth> tim: There are actually FHIR Logical models that are part of the core spec, just as there are profiles, like VitalSigns
16:08:10 <dbooth> ... We could gen OWL classes for them
16:10:07 <dbooth> tim: https://build.fhir.org/event.html
16:11:14 <dbooth> ericp: Should make the code available, to gen ontologies for other logical models and profiles that are not in the FHIR spec
16:15:35 <dbooth> dbooth: Could the generated profile class names conflict with any other class names we generate?
16:15:42 <dbooth> tim: An example http://hl7.org/fhir/StructureDefinition/vitalsigns
16:19:34 <dbooth> tim: The fact that resources, datatypes and all other structure defs are under the StructureDev/ subdir, ensures uniqueness.
16:20:24 <dbooth> ... Every US insurance company has to support the US core profile.
16:23:20 <dbooth> AGREED: Go ahead with issue 175, and put the profile and logical model ontologies in separate files.
16:23:30 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 167
16:23:43 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/167
16:34:26 <dbooth> dbooth: It feels like this may be too much to fully implement for R6, but it sounds like you're suggesting putting hooks for it into the R6  ont
16:34:30 <dbooth> tim: Yes
16:42:59 <dbooth> dbooth: I like the idea a lot, but concerned about what we put into R6
16:43:24 <dbooth> AGREED: This would be non-breaking change, so wait for after R6 for it.
16:46:34 <dbooth> Topic: R6 timeline
16:46:55 <dbooth> dbooth: Propose getting ITS approval next week, probably Wed 3pm Boston time.
16:48:02 <dbooth> tim: I think I can make the namespace change for datatypes everywhere.
16:51:44 <dbooth> Topic: Next meeting
16:51:50 <dbooth> tim: Out Thursday
16:53:55 <dbooth> ericp: I'm digging through HAPI FHIR, and tried R4 parser on current examples (R6?), and it failed a whole bunch.
16:54:23 <dbooth> ... It doesn't parse extensions on extensions.  Fixing that.
16:54:47 <dbooth> ... Want to eliminate all errors and then rebase for R5 changes.
16:55:16 <dbooth> ... Detlef has a version that works on old tests (R4)
16:55:28 <dbooth> detlef: But it produces somethign that looks like R5
17:00:52 <dbooth> ADJOURNED
17:01:20 <dbooth> Present: EricP, David Booth, Detlef Grittner, Tim Prudhomme
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17:41:32 <dbooth> i/How to generate/https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/178
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17:42:16 <dbooth> i/I'm digging through/Topic: HAPI
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17:52:14 <dbooth> s/Strucute/Structure/
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