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13:59:58 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), ivan
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14:00:04 <ivan> Chair: laurentlm
14:00:04 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Maintenance Working Group Annotation Task Force Telco
14:00:04 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pm-wg/2025Oct/0003.html
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14:01:05 <ivan> present+ brady, hadrien, ivan, gautierchomel, dale
14:01:23 <ivan> present+ toshiakikoike, kimberg
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14:10:56 <DaleRogers> Scribe: Dale
14:12:08 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/wg-notes/annotations-ucr/
14:12:32 <ivan> https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/wg-notes/annotations-ucr/
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14:13:58 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM Use Cases and Requirements have been updated
14:15:03 <DaleRogers> ivan Chanfe terminology?
14:16:05 <DaleRogers> @ivan: Change terminology?
14:16:33 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: Use Cases and Requirements have been updated.
14:18:00 <DaleRogers> ... going through document one by one.
14:18:33 <duga5> q+
14:18:38 <DaleRogers> ... discussing Locator types
14:19:22 <DaleRogers> duga5: Should be select text range when selecting text?
14:20:07 <ivan> q+
14:20:43 <LaurentLM> ack duga
14:20:50 <duga5> ack ivan
14:22:03 <DaleRogers> ivan: Should we have an option of selecting full view for image?
14:22:26 <ivan> s/for image/for audio/
14:22:51 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: Moving to 9.3.3 Annotation Content
14:23:53 <DaleRogers> ... no comments. Moving to 9.4.4
14:25:20 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: Remove last bullet in 9.2.2. Repeated in 9.4.4
14:25:56 <DaleRogers> ... moving to 9.5.5 Export and Import
14:26:13 <LaurentLM> q?
14:26:18 <duga5> q+
14:27:27 <DaleRogers> duga5: Is highlight types supported for users in 9.3.3
14:27:41 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: Yes.
14:28:12 <duga5> ack duga
14:28:54 <duga5> q+
14:28:59 <DaleRogers> Discussing hightlight types
14:29:30 <Hadrien> q+
14:29:35 <duga5> ack duga
14:30:44 <duga5> ack Hadrien
14:31:03 <DaleRogers> duga5: I don't see a highlight type for bookmark. Does that exist?
14:31:35 <duga5> q+
14:31:44 <duga5> ack duga5
14:31:50 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: Discussing different types of case studies and approaches for highlighting
14:32:29 <DaleRogers> duga5: Do we have control over the presentation or decoration of Bookmarks?
14:33:46 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: Sometimes decoration is used to given context to the user
14:34:28 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: Moving 9.6.6 Citation Support
14:34:40 <ivan> q+
14:34:45 <duga5> ack duga
14:34:54 <duga5> ack ivan
14:35:17 <Hadrien> q+
14:36:01 <gautierchomel> q+
14:36:09 <DaleRogers> ivan: The number of different citation methods in publications are immense. How can we cover them all?
14:36:12 <duga5> ack Hadrien
14:36:42 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: I'm not sure we can handle them all.
14:37:12 <duga5> ack gautierchomel
14:37:20 <DaleRogers> ivan: EPUB would have to be extended to accomplish that.
14:37:45 <LaurentLM> q+
14:39:27 <DaleRogers> gautierchomel: Make sure that we can add other contextual information as cases are identified.
14:39:37 <LaurentLM> ack Laurent
14:40:14 <duga5> ack LaurentLM
14:40:40 <gautierchomel> q+
14:40:46 <duga5> ack gautierchomel
14:41:10 <DaleRogers> ivan: Propose that we remove the style requirement since there are so many possibilities.
14:41:10 <Hadrien> q+
14:42:06 <DaleRogers> ivan: We should be able to export the metadata. We should not export styling information.
14:42:18 <duga5> q+
14:42:42 <duga5> ack Hadrien
14:42:47 <gautierchomel> q+
14:42:48 <ivan> ack Hadrien
14:43:00 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: I will reword the section.
14:43:58 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: I am concerned about the overwhelming amount of options passed to reading systems.
14:44:18 <ivan> q+
14:44:24 <DaleRogers> ... Identify some key metadata elements.
14:44:39 <ivan> q-
14:44:45 <duga5> q-
14:44:50 <gautierchomel> q-
14:44:58 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: I will open an issue.
14:45:28 <DaleRogers> ... moving to 9.7.7 Synchronization
14:46:28 <DaleRogers> ivan: Synchronization is a complicated problem to solve
14:47:24 <DaleRogers> ... synchronization depends on third party solutions that we do not want to take on.
14:48:06 <duga5> q+
14:48:14 <gautierchomel> q+
14:48:19 <duga5> ack duga
14:48:20 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: Do we want to remove this section?
14:49:11 <DaleRogers> duga5: Is this going to create problems later, since it may be requested in the future?
14:49:28 <DaleRogers> ... Will this affect how we set up the JSON?
14:50:48 <Hadrien> q+
14:51:09 <duga5> ack gautierchomel
14:51:13 <DaleRogers> Procedural discussion on how to thread and use timestamps in the JSON
14:52:03 <duga5> ack Hadrien
14:52:06 <DaleRogers> gautierchomel: I propose that we keep it in as a historical reference to the conversation.
14:52:20 <DaleRogers> .... and note it as out of scope.
14:52:50 <duga5> q+
14:53:21 <duga5> ack duga5
14:53:25 <duga5> ack duga
14:53:43 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: Can we specify the JSON metadata as a snapshot?
14:54:13 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: Yes. Let's make a note that synchronization is out of scope.
14:54:20 <Hadrien> q+
14:54:26 <duga5> ack Hadrien
14:54:41 <DaleRogers> ... moving to 9.8.8 Version Resilience
14:55:05 <ivan> q+
14:55:51 <DaleRogers> Hadrien: Concerned about automatic reposition of annotations.
14:56:41 <DaleRogers> ivan: We need to keep that option available.
14:57:32 <DaleRogers> ivan: What to present information at F2F meeting.
14:57:57 <DaleRogers> ... Want a summary and synthesis
14:58:46 <DaleRogers> s/What to/Want to
14:59:16 <DaleRogers> LaurentLM: We'll meet again in 1 month
15:00:39 <DaleRogers> Getting clearer on terminology for locators and selectors
15:01:15 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:01:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/10/02-pm-ann-minutes.html ivan
15:01:24 <DaleRogers> Thank you
15:01:47 <ivan> s/LaurentLM Use/LaurentLM: Use/
15:02:21 <ivan> s/ivan Chanfe/ivan: Change/
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