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13:05:42 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2
13:05:57 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Michael_Koster, Daniel_Peintner
13:06:08 <kaz> chair: Ege, Koster
13:06:13 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
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13:06:37 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#September_24-25%2C_2025
13:06:58 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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13:10:04 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
13:10:13 <Ege> ek: calls next week are not cancelled
13:10:27 <kaz> i/calls/topic: Logistics/
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13:13:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/25-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:14:05 <Ege> topic: Manageable Affordances
13:14:20 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2107
13:14:41 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2107/commits/2f385fbc0bfb97f92de251b9e1f9fb529837d0c6 shows the changes from yesterdaty
13:15:40 <Ege> ek: (shows the changes)
13:16:27 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2107|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2107 TD PR 2107 - Improve analysis manageable affordances document and add an initial list of user stories. |
13:16:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:16:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/25-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:17:04 <Ege> ... webthings, opcua, openflexure, bacnet events are added
13:17:56 <dape> q+
13:18:10 <Ege> ek: I will add these small changes?
13:18:12 <Ege> ca: sure
13:18:20 <Ege> ek: that was it compared to yesterday
13:18:51 <dape> ack dape
13:19:51 <Ege> ek: I have added some explanation to dependent affordances
13:19:54 <Ege> ca: good point
13:20:09 <Ege> q?
13:20:15 <Ege> ek: any other remarks?
13:21:12 <Ege> ... very good start to this
13:21:51 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/planning/work-items/analysis/analysis-manageable-affordances.md is the final document now
13:22:41 <Ege> topic: Arch Assertions
13:25:19 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2143
13:25:46 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2143|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2143 TD PR 2143 - Add categorization for TD-related Architecture assertions 1 to 9|
13:27:11 <Ege> ek: (explains the categories assigned to assertions)
13:27:14 <cris> +1 for current categorization
13:27:50 <dape> q+
13:29:43 <dape> ack dape
13:29:46 <Ege> ek: others need to provide categories
13:30:23 <Ege> topic: TD PRs
13:30:26 <Ege> subtopic: PR 2144
13:30:30 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2144
13:31:56 <Ege> ek: this just improves the usability of the template a bit
13:32:40 <Ege> dp: small remark on number usage
13:32:42 <Ege> ek: yes
13:33:10 <Ege> ek: any remarks?
13:33:48 <Ege> subtopic: PR 2142
13:33:49 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2142
13:34:40 <Ege> ek: I remove two compatbility assertions
13:35:49 <Ege> ... I don't think we should keep such wording
13:36:16 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2142|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2142 TD PR 2142 - Removing 1.1 Context Rules|
13:36:19 <Ege> ek: any remarks? already 3 approvals
13:37:31 <Ege> topic: Registry Testing
13:37:32 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/issues/3
13:38:35 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/issues/3|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/issues/3 Registry Issue 3 - Defining Test Report Content|
13:38:44 <Ege> https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-registry/#req-trancurr
13:39:47 <Ege> ek: I want to test this process and define an early test report content
13:45:04 <dape> q+
13:46:31 <cris> q+
13:47:14 <kaz> q+
13:47:15 <dape> ack dape
13:48:21 <Ege> ack c
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13:51:45 <Ege> ek: any other business?
13:52:34 <Ege> topic: manageable affordances
13:55:02 <Ege> ca: How should we proceed with the topic?
13:56:50 <Ege> ek: we can "draw" the action models (state machines) to see similarities
13:57:12 <Ege> ca: to find a common model or description?
14:01:20 <Ege> ek: maybe categories like discussed with webagents cg
14:01:38 <mjk> q+
14:02:44 <Ege> ca: we can have sub affordances or linked TMs like I had proposed
14:03:01 <mjk> axk m
14:03:04 <mjk> ack m
14:03:17 <mjk> s/axk m//
14:03:53 <Ege> mk: I think we already have some design ideas or patterns in mind
14:04:13 <Ege> ca: I can elaborate these a bit
14:04:18 <kaz> q+
14:04:27 <Ege> mk: someone can take these ideas and see how they go forward
14:06:39 <Ege> https://tum-esi.github.io/publications-list/PDF/2024_COINS_Stateful_WoT.pdf
14:08:53 <Ege> https://github.com/tum-esi/Stateful-WoT/tree/main/examples
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