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12:00:38 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
12:00:52 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Josh_Thomas
12:00:58 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:01:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:01:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:01:48 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
12:02:45 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:02:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:05:07 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:05:16 <kaz> chair: Koster
12:05:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:05:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:05:36 <kaz> q+
12:06:12 <kaz> q-
12:06:59 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
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12:07:56 <sebastian> topic: guests and IE applications
12:08:03 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:08:32 <sebastian> MK: Chairs approved IE application from Michael McCool
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12:08:38 <sebastian> topic: Minutes
12:08:46 <kaz> s/McCool/McCool for WG and IG/
12:08:55 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2025/09/17-wot-minutes.html Sep-17
12:09:16 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
12:09:49 <sebastian> <MK scans the minutes from last time>
12:10:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:10:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:10:41 <sebastian> MK: any further updates or comments to the minutes?
12:10:46 <sebastian> ... any objections?
12:10:47 <mjk> q?
12:10:51 <sebastian> no
12:10:57 <sebastian> MK: minutes are approved
12:11:08 <sebastian> topic: Quick Items
12:11:13 <kaz> q?
12:11:14 <sebastian> q+
12:11:23 <Ege> q+
12:12:31 <kaz> subtopic: WoT Event in Beijing
12:12:45 <kaz> scribe+
12:13:03 <kaz> sk: was attending an event on WoT in Beijing
12:13:23 <kaz> ... hosted by Siemens and supported by the W3C China Team
12:13:31 <kaz> present+ Ben_Francis
12:13:52 <McCool> q+
12:13:52 <kaz> ... maybe it would be helpful if we could translate our standards into Chinese
12:13:56 <kaz> ack s
12:14:19 <kaz> mm: would explore AI translation :)
12:14:21 <kaz> ack m
12:14:44 <kaz> mjk: yeah, translation is a big task
12:14:59 <kaz> mm: we can mark it as "AI-Translated" explicitly
12:15:07 <kaz> mjk: ok
12:15:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:15:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:15:17 <kaz> scribe-
12:15:33 <kaz> q+
12:16:12 <kaz> ack e
12:16:14 <kaz> ack k
12:16:27 <Ege> https://blog.liuxing3169.cn/wot-architecture/publication/rec/index.html
12:16:44 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:16:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:17:25 <kaz> i/blog/kaz: if you visit the W3C Translations page, you can find some of the translated specs/
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12:17:38 <sebastian> EK: there are PRs for the TD draft publications
12:17:51 <kaz> i/blog/ek: seems there is some for Chinese as well/
12:17:53 <kaz> q+
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12:19:04 <kaz> q-
12:19:10 <sebastian> Kaz: propose not apply the changes after the approaval, I suggest to include an editorial note instead
12:19:24 <sebastian> EK: Would also ok for
12:19:31 <kaz> i|propose|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2140 TD PR 2140 - TD 2.0 FPWD Publication|
12:19:35 <sebastian> MK: Do we need a new resolution?
12:19:46 <sebastian> EK: I dont think so
12:20:10 <sebastian> ... I will reuse the existing PRs
12:20:59 <sebastian> Kaz: we will need one
12:21:47 <kaz> proposal: the WoT WG would like to reuse TD PR 2140 to remove the normative changes and add an editorial note to remove the extra normative text later instead
12:22:11 <sebastian> +1
12:22:43 <kaz> resolution: the WoT WG would like to reuse TD PR 2140 to remove the normative changes and add an editorial note to remove the extra normative text later instead
12:22:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:22:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:23:09 <sebastian> MK: other quick items?
12:23:11 <benfrancis> q+
12:23:19 <kaz> i|if you visit|scribenick: kaz|
12:23:20 <sebastian> topic: Notices
12:23:20 <Ege> rrsagent, make logs public
12:23:30 <kaz> i|there are PRs|scribenick: sebastian|
12:23:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:23:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:23:39 <Ege> rrsagent, make minutes public
12:23:39 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', Ege.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
12:23:39 <benfrancis> q?
12:23:42 <mjk> q?
12:23:55 <benfrancis> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/447
12:24:13 <kaz> q+
12:24:14 <sebastian> BF: Profile will be published as new Working Draft
12:24:27 <Ege> q+
12:24:28 <sebastian> ... PR is available
12:24:41 <sebastian> ... any action needed for the publication?
12:24:46 <sebastian> Kaz: I will take care of it
12:24:53 <dape> q+
12:25:23 <dape> ack dape
12:25:41 <sebastian> BF: how about Michael McCool and its membership?
12:26:05 <sebastian> Kaz: since yesterday Michael McCool is active member again, as IE
12:26:19 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/447 Profile PR 447 - Generate static HTML for Working Draft publication
12:27:41 <sebastian> Kaz: lets merge this PR
12:27:54 <sebastian> <MK is merging>
12:28:40 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-profile/publication/3-wd/Overview.html Overview.html
12:31:28 <dape> q+ to minor note, see https://w3c.github.io/wot-profile/publication/3-wd/Overview.html#out-of-the-box-interoperability-semantic-interop
12:31:52 <sebastian> Kaz: we may update Ryiochi-san status in the editorial list
12:32:15 <dezell> q+
12:32:20 <sebastian> BF: how about the status of Michael McCool?
12:32:32 <kaz> ack b
12:32:33 <kaz> ack k
12:32:45 <sebastian> Kaz: we can keep this, I will take care of it later
12:32:59 <kaz> s/Ryiochi/Matsukura/
12:33:51 <sebastian> DE: in the majority time, Michael was with Intel. So its make sense to keep Intel  mentioning
12:34:00 <kaz> q+
12:34:43 <sebastian> BF: just was checking since the W3C says that people needs to be member when publication
12:34:48 <kaz> https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/
12:35:00 <sebastian> ... McCool is member again, so everything should be ok
12:36:19 <kaz> action: kaz to move McCool and Matsukura-san to "Former editors" section with their former affiliations
12:36:52 <benfrancis> q+
12:37:10 <kaz> ack k
12:37:30 <kaz> ack dez
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12:38:07 <kaz> ack ben
12:38:16 <sebastian> Kaz: at the time of publication Michael is not with Intel. Need to be checked
12:39:14 <sebastian> EK: everything is merged for binding and TD. Kaz you will take then the next actions for publication?
12:39:17 <kaz> s|https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/ WoT Architecture Editor's Draft|
12:39:21 <sebastian> Kaz: Yes, I think so
12:39:25 <mjk> q?
12:39:28 <dape> ack dape
12:39:28 <Zakim> dape, you wanted to minor note, see https://w3c.github.io/wot-profile/publication/3-wd/Overview.html#out-of-the-box-interoperability-semantic-interop
12:39:38 <kaz> ack e
12:39:40 <sebastian> ... I do my best to do so until end of this week
12:39:56 <kaz> s/until/by/
12:40:07 <kaz> q+
12:40:17 <sebastian> DP: Found a typo in the Profile, how to handle this?
12:40:55 <sebastian> Kaz: it is ok to provide a PR to fix this
12:41:03 <mjk> q?
12:41:15 <sebastian> ... please note there should be 2: one for the main branch and for the static version
12:41:26 <kaz> q-
12:41:32 <sebastian> topic: Use Case planning
12:41:57 <sebastian> MK: Plan is to publish the Use Case note today
12:42:18 <sebastian> MM: we made the final changes this morning
12:42:30 <kaz> q+
12:43:12 <sebastian> ... I do a formal call to invite people to review. Review time is planned for 4 weeks
12:44:01 <sebastian> ... publication should take place during the TPAC in November
12:44:07 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/387 UC PR 387 - Update Abstract and Intro
12:44:18 <sebastian> Kaz: would be good to have reviewed the PRs before in the main call
12:44:38 <sebastian> MM: there were no comments provided, so we decided to merge
12:45:03 <sebastian> MM: I will do a call for resolution
12:45:25 <sebastian> ... everything is updated
12:45:41 <kaz> s/Kaz: would be good to have reviewed the PRs before in the main call/Kaz: tx for your hard work! btw, please note that given the call for review for this PR 387 was made during the main call, check the results and merging the PR should have been also done during the main call./
12:45:59 <mjk> https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/
12:46:06 <kaz> s/decided to merge/decided to merge before the main call/
12:46:46 <kaz> s/I will do a call for resolution/I'd like to do a call for resolution for publication now
12:46:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:46:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:47:22 <sebastian> MK: any more questions on the use case document?
12:47:23 <kaz> s|https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/ Use Cases & Requirements Note Editor's Note
12:47:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:47:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:47:33 <sebastian> no
12:47:40 <sebastian> topic: TPAC 2025 Planning
12:47:52 <sebastian> q+
12:48:04 <kaz> ack k
12:48:06 <kaz> scribe+
12:48:54 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_TPAC_2025_planning#WoT_F2F_Agenda_(Draft) Draft Agenda for the WoT F2F at TPAC 2025
12:49:04 <kaz> sk: very draft agenda
12:49:42 <kaz> ... would suggest we end the meeting at 16:45 for Thursday
12:50:08 <kaz> ... (goes through the draft agenda)
12:50:36 <kaz> ... reports from joint meetings following the Plugfest report
12:50:42 <kaz> ... then break
12:50:51 <kaz> ... and WG Charter discussion
12:50:54 <kaz> ... lunch
12:51:14 <kaz> ... and TD, break and then Scripting API
12:51:22 <kaz> ... then 2nd day, Friday
12:51:30 <kaz> ... starting with Liaisons
12:51:50 <kaz> ... break and use cases
12:51:57 <kaz> ... lunch and then Profile
12:52:15 <kaz> ... break and joint meeting with the WoT CG
12:52:26 <mjk> q?
12:52:27 <kaz> ... 2nd day ends at 18:00
12:52:34 <kaz> s/use cases/Use Cases/
12:52:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:52:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:52:57 <sebastian> ack s
12:53:53 <benfrancis> q+
12:54:04 <kaz> mm: wondering about the Use Cases session
12:54:14 <kaz> sk: maybe Tomoaki can handle the session?
12:54:39 <kaz> mm: 2 issues, one about the document and two about the process
12:55:04 <benfrancis> q?
12:55:08 <kaz> ... the document should be ok, though
12:56:40 <kaz> bf: due to the time commitment, might be difficult to join the meeting on Friday
12:57:00 <kaz> sk: thought 13:45 would be OK
12:57:29 <kaz> ... let's see what/when would be feasible
12:57:32 <kaz> bf: tx
12:57:43 <kaz> mjk: any other comments?
12:57:44 <kaz> (none)
12:57:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:57:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:57:56 <kaz> topic: AOB
12:58:00 <kaz> mjk: any other business for today?
12:58:39 <kaz> (none)
12:59:11 <kaz> mjk: Plugfest call after this main call
12:59:21 <mjk> q?
12:59:26 <benfrancis> q-
12:59:35 <kaz> sk: Kaz's leaving W3C, so would express big Thanks :)
12:59:51 <kaz> ... would not say "Bye", though
12:59:56 <kaz> q+
13:00:10 <kaz> kaz: my pleasure :)
13:00:15 <kaz> ack k
13:00:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:01:34 <kaz> sk: as Koster mentioned, we have the Plugfest call. let's start it in 9 mins.
13:01:36 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:01:39 <mjk> opt out
13:01:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:01:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:01:58 <kaz> s/opt out//
13:02:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:02:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:02:46 <mjk> thanks kaz
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13:14:13 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#24_September_2025
13:14:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:14:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-wot-minutes.html kaz
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