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12:58:08 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
12:58:09 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), JJ
12:58:15 <JJ> Zakim, this is MATF 24 September 2025
12:58:15 <Zakim> got it, JJ
12:58:21 <JJ> Meeting: MATF 24 September 2025
12:58:26 <JJ> chair+
12:58:48 <JJ> agenda+ Cross-platform Framework definition
12:58:53 <JJ> agenda+ Change of Context
12:58:58 <JJ> agenda+ User Interface Component definition
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12:59:04 <JJ> agenda+ Out of scope issues
12:59:09 <JJ> agenda+ Closed issues
12:59:14 <JJ> agenda?
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13:02:22 <pauljadam> present+
13:02:32 <shoobe01> present+
13:03:02 <quintinb> present+
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13:04:10 <quintinb> scribe quintinb
13:04:28 <quintinb> Mostly important to scribe who to work on what
13:04:32 <quintinb> Got it :P
13:04:41 <JJ> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/147/views/1
13:04:46 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:04:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Cross-platform Framework definition -- taken up [from JJ]
13:06:49 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/84
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13:08:55 <GleidsonRamos> present+
13:09:41 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/84 still to be assigned
13:09:59 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:09:59 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Change of Context -- taken up [from JJ]
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13:10:30 <Jamie> present+
13:10:32 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/69
13:11:43 <Jamie> q+
13:11:48 <JJ> ack Jamie
13:12:13 <pauljadam> q+
13:12:38 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/69 worked on by Tania and Jamie
13:13:06 <JJ> ack pauljadam
13:13:21 <GleidsonRamos> I'm available for the cross-platform. Sorry the delay.
13:13:35 <quintinb> pauljadam I was wondering if it's as simple as removing "web" from the current definition. Normally that works
13:14:40 <Aash> present+
13:15:12 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/84 assigned to GleidsonRamos
13:15:40 <Joe_Humbert> present+
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13:16:25 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:16:25 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- User Interface Component definition -- taken up [from JJ]
13:16:49 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/68
13:19:42 <Joe_Humbert> i guess I don't consider something applicable as written if we are changing wording and adding notes
13:21:15 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/68 assigned to quintinb
13:22:53 <JJ> ACTION: Check with W3C technical staff for GitHub account linking for assigning GitHub issues
13:23:57 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:23:57 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Out of scope issues -- taken up [from JJ]
13:25:32 <JJ> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/147/views/1 (Out of scope column)
13:29:08 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/147/views/1 (2.4.11) going beyond what we should focus on, just terms in WCAG. Joe_Humbert: surprised it's not already included in draft. Joe_Humbert to make a PR
13:30:46 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/240 to be closed
13:31:03 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/71 to be closed
13:31:23 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/229 to be closed
13:31:38 <quintinb> action: forget action 8
13:32:16 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/245 to be closed
13:32:51 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/246 to be closed
13:34:35 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/91 to be reviewed
13:37:07 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/226 to be closed
13:38:04 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/197 to be closed
13:38:28 <JJ> `Changing the setting` of any user interface component does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component.
13:39:21 <pauljadam> Maybe "changing the state" instead of setting?
13:39:21 <quintinb> Would changing font size be consiidered a setting?
13:39:58 <quintinb> In Android changing to dark mode triggers lifecycle events
13:43:03 <quintinb> action: ignore action 15
13:43:43 <JJ> ACTION: Raise issue for "Changing the setting" (SC 3.2.2) in AG WG
13:48:14 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/165 to be closed
13:48:32 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/172 to be closed
13:50:54 <JJ> regrets+ Detlev
13:51:16 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/213 to be discussed (back in scope)
13:51:45 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/111 still has discussion points
13:52:31 <JJ> ACTION: Raise issue for 2.5.2 - Pointer Cancellation - Clarification on "Abort or Undo" in AG WG
13:53:48 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/107 to be closed
13:55:19 <quintinb> action: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/65 to be closed
13:55:31 <JJ> move to next agendum
13:55:31 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Closed issues -- taken up [from JJ]
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13:55:43 <JJ> https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aclosed%20sort%3Aupdated-desc
13:58:32 <quintinb> or Windows phone or Blackberry
13:59:26 <quintinb> But I think that's good - staying agnostic is future-proofing
13:59:35 <JJ> JJ: Went through 20 or so issues explaining why they were closed, mostly because of duplication or outdated
14:00:17 <quintinb> ty bye bye!
14:00:51 <JJ> Zakim, list participants
14:00:51 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been pauljadam, shoobe, quintinb, GleidsonRamos, Jamie, Aash, Joe_Humbert
14:01:07 <JJ> rrsagent, make minutes
14:01:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-minutes.html JJ
14:20:16 <JJ> rrsagent, bye
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> I see 24 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-actions.rdf :
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/84 still to be assigned [1]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-09-41
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/69 worked on by Tania and Jamie [2]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-12-38
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/84 assigned to GleidsonRamos [3]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-15-12
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/68 assigned to quintinb [4]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-21-15
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Check with W3C technical staff for GitHub account linking for assigning GitHub issues [5]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-22-53
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/147/views/1 (2.4.11) going beyond what we should focus on, just terms in WCAG. Joe_Humbert: surprised it's not already included in draft. Joe_Humbert to make a PR [6]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-29-08
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/240 to be closed [7]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-30-46
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/71 to be closed [8]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-31-03
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/229 to be closed [9]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-31-23
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: forget action 8 [10]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-31-38
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/245 to be closed [11]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-32-16
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/246 to be closed [12]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-32-51
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/91 to be reviewed [13]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-34-35
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/226 to be closed [14]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-37-07
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/197 to be closed [15]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-38-04
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ignore action 15 [16]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-43-03
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Raise issue for "Changing the setting" (SC 3.2.2) in AG WG [17]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-43-43
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/165 to be closed [18]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-48-14
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/172 to be closed [19]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-48-32
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/213 to be discussed (back in scope) [20]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-51-16
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/111 still has discussion points [21]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-51-45
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Raise issue for 2.5.2 - Pointer Cancellation - Clarification on "Abort or Undo" in AG WG [22]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-52-31
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/107 to be closed [23]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-53-48
14:20:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: https://github.com/w3c/matf/issues/65 to be closed [24]
14:20:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/09/24-matf-irc#T13-55-19
14:20:26 <JJ> zakim, bye
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14:20:27 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been pauljadam, shoobe, quintinb, GleidsonRamos, Jamie, Aash, Joe_Humbert
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