14:35:10 RRSAgent has joined #ag 14:35:14 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/09/23-ag-irc 14:35:14 RRSAgent, make logs Public 14:35:15 Meeting: AGWG Teleconference 14:35:22 chair: Chuck 14:35:30 meeting: AGWG-2025-09-23 14:36:24 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:36:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/23-ag-minutes.html Chuck 14:36:38 agenda+ WCAG 2.x 14:36:51 agenda+ subgroup work 14:38:35 regrets: Chris Loiselle, Todd Libby, Hidde de Vries, Roberto Scano 14:41:23 regrets+ Rain Michaels 14:48:11 filippo-zorzi has joined #ag 14:50:51 Nicholas has joined #ag 14:58:04 bbailey has joined #ag 14:59:49 GreggVan has joined #ag 15:00:33 mbgower has joined #ag 15:00:33 present+ 15:00:33 shadi has joined #ag 15:00:43 present+ 15:01:26 Adam_Page has joined #ag 15:01:36 present+ 15:01:43 present+ 15:01:47 Adam_Page has joined #ag 15:01:47 GreggVan has joined #ag 15:01:47 wendyreid has joined #ag 15:01:47 gpellegrino has joined #ag 15:01:47 kirkwood has joined #ag 15:01:47 jedi has joined #ag 15:01:47 hdv has joined #ag 15:01:47 Rachael has joined #ag 15:01:47 jeroen has joined #ag 15:01:47 tink has joined #ag 15:01:47 bwang has joined #ag 15:01:47 alastairc has joined #ag 15:01:47 alice has joined #ag 15:01:50 Francis_Storr has joined #ag 15:01:50 giacomo-petri has joined #ag 15:01:53 Makoto has joined #ag 15:01:57 LTSzivos has joined #ag 15:02:08 present+ 15:02:16 ShawnT has joined #ag 15:02:17 JeanneEC has joined #ag 15:02:29 present+ 15:02:29 Jennie_Delisi has joined #ag 15:02:33 present+ 15:02:37 present+ 15:02:40 present+ 15:02:48 present+ 15:03:05 present+ 15:03:06 present+ 15:03:31 laura has joined #ag 15:03:32 laura_ has joined #ag 15:03:34 laura__ has joined #ag 15:03:36 laura___ has joined #ag 15:03:38 Jon_avila has joined #ag 15:03:38 present+ 15:03:40 Azlan has joined #ag 15:03:40 Poornima has joined #ag 15:03:46 I can scribe 15:03:47 present+ 15:03:47 laura has joined #ag 15:03:52 scribe: jon_avila 15:03:53 BrianE has joined #ag 15:03:54 present+ Laura_Carlson 15:03:59 present+ 15:04:00 present+ 15:04:04 present+ 15:04:05 present+ 15:04:08 present+ 15:04:23 Chuck: welcome and introductions, anyone who is new to group or new role? 15:04:26 present+ 15:04:56 Nicholas: UX researcher at Google 15:05:27 Venkat: engineer who want to be involved with standards 15:05:27 Ben_Tillyer has joined #ag 15:05:28 Charu has joined #ag 15:05:32 present+ 15:05:42 present+ 15:05:44 Detlev has joined #ag 15:06:06 SteveF has joined #ag 15:06:11 Chuck: First meeting of every month, start the call 30 minutes early - brief introduction and presentation regarding the working group and how we operate. 15:06:22 present+ 15:06:33 present+ 15:06:38 https://github.com/w3c/silver/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3A%22survey%20%3A%20ready%20for%22 15:06:48 present+ 15:06:54 elguerrero1 has joined #ag 15:07:05 elguerrero1 has left #ag 15:07:11 elguerrero has joined #ag 15:07:29 Chuck: Going through another round of closing Silver issues - chairs have reviewed and determined they can be closed - you can plus 1 if you agree, if you want to review - review and put in a note and they can be moved into WCAG 3 repository. 15:08:42 Chuck: As a reminder - editors will be meeting intensely - we are not going to have the working group call next - we will resume the week after - the first one of the month. Next month will not occur. 15:08:50 q+ 15:08:56 ack Rach 15:08:57 Chuck: Any new topics for future topics to inform future agendas? 15:09:14 Rachael: Overview meeting will be the 7th. 15:09:25 q+ 15:09:30 ack bbai 15:09:40 Bruce: will subgroups be meeting next week? 15:09:41 q+ 15:09:45 ack Rach 15:09:58 AlinaV has joined #ag 15:10:03 present+ 15:10:13 Rachael: would recommend that subgroups not meet - but chairs have not talked about it. 15:10:24 jtoles has joined #ag 15:10:31 present+ 15:10:32 inputs subgroup will not be meeting on the 30th then !! 15:10:37 q+ 15:10:37 Gregg: unaidable 15:10:46 ack kevin 15:10:59 a/unaidable/inaudible 15:11:02 zakim, take up first item 15:11:02 I don't understand 'take up first item', Chuck 15:11:03 Kevin: will cancel meting for next week 15:11:08 zakim, take up item 1 15:11:08 agendum 1 -- WCAG 2.x -- taken up [from Chuck] 15:11:17 TOPIC: 500 issues complete! 15:11:36 WCAG2 issues backlog this is 15:11:42 Wohoo! Congratulations! 15:11:45 Frankie has joined #ag 15:11:52 present+ 15:11:57 Chuck: 2 topics to discuss for WCAG 2. First one - a moment of celecbation - 500 issues complete, addressed and closed. 15:11:58 Fantastic work! 15:12:09 Wow awesome! 15:12:18 s/celecbation/celebration/ 15:12:20 https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues 15:12:31 q? 15:12:36 q+ 15:12:39 ack mb 15:12:40 Chuck: While we are working on WCAG 3- there is a group who has been working on resolving WCAG 2 backlog of issues - thank you to those who have lead and participating and reviewing that effort. WCAG 2 is alive and well and thriving. Comments welcome. 15:12:48 Glenda has joined #ag 15:13:08 q+ 15:13:10 Wow. Thank you all. 15:13:20 Congrats to Mike, Bruce (co-facilitators), Francis, Patrick, and everyone involved. 15:13:24 q+ SteveF 15:13:27 q? 15:13:28 present+ 15:13:31 ack SteveF 15:13:32 MikeG: One of the co-facilitators with Bruce - meeting for less than 2 years - that is what we have closed in that time - milestone about to have more issues closed then that we have open. Issues keep on coming. If folks are interested - next items are about WCAG 2 - we have info on how to join on email we send out. 15:13:45 q+ 15:13:49 present+ 15:14:01 Steve: Have been audience member for some of the meeting - want to congratulate on the work they hvae done. 15:14:06 GN015 has joined #ag 15:14:26 Well done! 15:14:45 ack Gregg 15:15:11 zakim, agenda? 15:15:11 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda: 15:15:12 1. WCAG 2.x [from Chuck] 15:15:12 2. subgroup work [from Chuck] 15:15:17 Gregg: What are the changes for 2.2? 15:15:19 rscano has joined #ag 15:15:21 TOPIC: WCAG2 issues review requested by Sept 30, see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2025JulSep/0154.html 15:15:25 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-issues/2025Sep/0002.html 15:16:02 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2025JulSep/0154.html 15:16:12 q++ 15:16:18 Jen_G has joined #ag 15:16:21 ack + 15:16:22 present+ 15:16:24 qq+ bbailye 15:16:29 ack bbai 15:16:29 bbailye, you wanted to react to + 15:16:30 Present+ 15:16:32 qq+ bbailey 15:16:41 Venkat3 has joined #ag 15:16:45 LenB has joined #ag 15:16:50 present+ 15:16:55 present+ 15:17:54 MikeG: Send out bi-weekly email to the working group with listed changes they are reviewing. We let group know we have reviewed and inside the email division of changes - section for normative changes - most are not - most are minor or substantive editorial on non-normative guidance - although we can do errata on normative guidance. As long as 15:17:54 don't get into a situation where someone things we are changing the interpretation of the requirement. If that does happen we hold that for the next release. We can't add new - a new criterion. Our focus is tweaking requirements rather than any net new ones. 15:17:54 present+ 15:18:33 GreggVan - anything normative is going through the CFC process. The 500 is everything, including a few errata that have come to the AG separately, but it is mostly informative docs. 15:18:34 MikeG: The email lists the editorial and substantive and bug fixes or backend fixes and housecleaning stuff. The last is where we have a response only category. 15:18:50 ack bb 15:18:50 bbailey, you wanted to react to bbailye 15:18:58 MikeG: Email contains closed issues and how to join instructions. 15:19:12 I'll echo SteveF's comments from a few minutes ago - 500 issues is a big achievement and the Friday taskforce meeting is definitely a good one. 15:19:55 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/56/views/1 15:19:55 MikeG: We don't review issue by issue here - a lot of the ones in this list are bug fixes and if people find issues with those let us know- these are informative - the ones we are asking folks to look at is 10 issues. There is also a project board link. 15:20:14 Project board requires W3C login and linked GitHub account 15:20:17 MikeG: Column will indicate sent for WG approval. 15:20:27 Chuck: Any additional questions? 15:20:30 zakim, take up next item 15:20:30 agendum 2 -- subgroup work -- taken up [from Chuck] 15:20:39 MikeG: current review period closes next Tuesday. 16:26:01 rrsagent, make minutes 16:26:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/23-ag-minutes.html laura 17:41:39 kirkwood has joined #ag 17:58:08 kirkwood has joined #ag 18:11:28 kirkwood has joined #ag 18:37:53 kirkwood has joined #ag 18:57:01 kirkwood has joined #ag 22:06:58 Glenda has joined #ag