13:01:08 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 13:01:13 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-irc 13:02:11 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2 13:02:23 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura 13:02:52 dape has joined #wot-td 13:04:28 mjk has joined #wot-td 13:05:46 present+ Daniel_Peintner, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:05:50 chair: Ege, Koster 13:05:57 scribenick: mjk 13:06:12 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#September_10-11%2C_2025 13:06:14 Mizushima has joined #wot-td 13:06:25 Topic: minutes review from August 27th 13:06:26 https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-wot-td-minutes.html 13:06:39 s|https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-wot-td-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-27| 13:07:41 ege: one typo, any other changes to the minutes? 13:07:51 kaz: typo is fixed 13:08:03 dape: one more small typo 13:09:57 kaz: fixed 13:10:09 s/typo/typo around "explaination"/ 13:10:25 subtopic: Minutes review from August 28th 13:10:36 https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html 13:10:39 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-28 13:10:49 ege: any remarks? 13:10:55 s|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-28|| 13:11:02 ... Approved 13:11:03 s|https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-wot-td-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-28| 13:11:08 rrsagent, make log public 13:11:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:11:12 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:11:19 Topic: Editorial PRs 13:12:18 subtopic: PR for dark mode 13:12:28 q+ 13:12:30 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/pull/32 Registry PR 32 - refactor: provide 2 assertion colors depending on dark/light mode 13:12:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:12:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:12:54 dape: we should propagate this change to the other documents 13:13:16 ege: is it OK to merge? 13:14:03 q+ 13:14:24 dape: this should be done in the official template 13:14:46 kaz: please send a bug report to the respec people 13:15:34 ack dape 13:15:41 q- 13:15:47 ege: reviews the respec repo, not obvious how to fix 13:16:20 subtopic PR #34, fix Prettier problem 13:16:53 q+ 13:16:54 ege: we tested and looks good 13:17:57 dape: it looks like the same error is in the TD repo 13:18:01 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/actions/runs/17611645928/job/50034798914?pr=2107 13:18:32 i|we tested|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/issues/34 Registry Issue 34 - Prettier Action not working| 13:18:42 dape: the prettier selection fails here also 13:19:03 ege: It used to fail on forks 13:19:08 i|Issue 34|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/pull/35 Registry PR 35 - Fix Prettier Problem| 13:19:23 s/subtopic PR #34/subtopic PR #35/ 13:19:23 ... the fix is to check for a fork and handle it differently 13:19:29 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:19:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:19:45 q? 13:19:45 dape: I will try the same fix in the TD repo 13:20:14 s/subtopic PR/subtopic: PR/ 13:20:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:20:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:20:28 (merged) 13:20:50 subtopic: PR # 37, remove "X" from binding terminology 13:20:50 ack dape 13:21:00 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/pull/37 Registry PR 37 - Removing Usage of X from Terminology 13:21:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:21:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:21:36 ege: (reviews diff) 13:23:10 ege: will review the respec and merge if everything is OK 13:23:23 ... any objections? 13:23:40 ... no objections, will do after the call 13:24:00 Topic: Static documents for publication 13:24:37 subtopic: PR #36 13:24:39 ege: we agreed on the short name 13:24:42 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/issues/36 Registry Issue 36 - Creating Static Documents for Publication 13:24:50 s/PR #36/Issue #36/ 13:24:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:24:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:25:15 q+ 13:25:23 ege: any objections? 13:25:30 s/minutes review from August 27th/Minutes Review/ 13:25:40 dape: wondering about use of "DRY" 13:25:58 s/Aug-28 Aug-27/Aug-27/ 13:26:01 ege: it's automatically added 13:26:23 s|https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-28| 13:26:25 ack dape 13:26:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:26:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:26:35 ... it is a bit weird but didn't want to change it 13:26:47 It's referred to in the W3C process document 13:27:07 s/It's/ege: It's 13:27:15 i|Aug-27|subtopic: Minutes review from August 27th| 13:27:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:27:29 ege: also, Candidate Registry is "CRY" 13:27:48 s|-> ->|->| 13:27:49 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:28:54 subtopic: Issue #2132 in the TD repository 13:29:19 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2132 TD Issue 2132 - Creating Static Files for TD 2.0 FPWD Publication 13:29:21 ege: we also agreed on the short name, following the same pattern as before 13:29:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:29:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:29:39 ege: any remarks? 13:30:09 ege: no objections noted, approved 13:30:50 subtopic: Binding Templates Issue #440, retire the document 13:31:02 ege: any objections? 13:31:18 ... no objections noted, approved 13:31:45 Topic: Document alignment 13:31:49 i|any ob|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/430 Binding Issue 430 - OPC UA Binding Document Feedback w.r.t. contentType| 13:32:10 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:32:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:32:21 subtopic: PR #2129 13:32:35 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2129 TD PR 2129 - Add categorization for TD-related Architecture assertions 19 to 27 13:34:06 ege: (reviews the process for categorization) 13:34:59 ege: (reviews each assertion) 13:37:43 ... The assertion about caching hypermedia controls needs some explanation 13:38:21 ... it only makes sense in the context of dynamic TD that changes a lot 13:38:37 ... propose that we discard this one 13:39:07 q? 13:39:08 s/dynamic/a dynamic/ 13:40:46 ktoumura: there is a way to track whether a TD has changed, using a modified attribute 13:41:11 ege: we need to specify a time period for validity (staleness) 13:41:53 ... a ttl (time to live) is needed 13:42:37 ege: maybe this belongs in the discovery spec also 13:42:49 ... any discussion? 13:43:03 ... (added comment) 13:43:18 ... (continues review of assertion labels) 13:45:01 q? 13:45:11 ege: any other comments on this PR? 13:45:36 ... no comments, update the comment to indicate approval 13:45:58 Topic: HTTP binding 13:46:11 subtopic: PR #435 13:47:22 ege: the main change is htv namespace added to the JSON-LD context 13:47:37 q+ 13:48:40 dape: how does the change impact implementation? 13:49:09 ege: it should only impact implementations that don't use JSON-LD 13:49:42 ... those that convert the TD to triples 13:50:27 ... there could be a collision if there is a different namespace in the body of the document 13:50:34 ... any other remarks? 13:50:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:50:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:51:16 .. no remarks 13:51:25 ack dape 13:51:25 Topic: Reusable connection 13:51:38 i|the main|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/435 Binding PR 435 - Moving http binding related content from td spec| 13:51:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:51:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:51:48 ege; there could be some confusion due to the naming 13:52:15 ... too specific about the concept of connection, it implies there is a connection pool required 13:52:42 ... it is not meant to specify connection requirement 13:53:02 ... we propose to rename the frature to "Common Definitions" 13:53:11 ... any discussion? 13:53:21 q? 13:53:33 dape: It makes it clearer 13:53:49 q+ 13:53:57 s/it/the concept/ 13:54:50 q- 13:55:11 i|there could be|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/main/proposals/initial-connection Reusable or Initial Connections 13:55:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:55:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:55:21 q- 13:55:27 kaz: we should be careful about how to explain the network connection feature 13:55:41 s/ege;/ege:/ 13:55:43 ege: we need to give guidance to implementers 13:55:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:55:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:55:53 ... will create an issue to address this 13:58:04 q+ 13:58:14 ege: we're out of time, any other business? 13:58:43 dape: to confirm, calls for September 17th and 18th are cancelled? 13:59:02 ege: yes, September 17th and 18th TD calls are cancelled 13:59:04 ack dape 13:59:15 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:59:25 ege: adjourned 13:59:42 i|we're out|topic: AOB?| 13:59:46 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/11-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:30:39 kaz has joined #wot-td 15:01:31 zkis has joined #wot-td 16:03:43 Zakim has left #wot-td 17:26:21 zkis has joined #wot-td