13:04:03 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 13:04:07 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-pf-irc 13:04:09 meeting: WoT Plugfest 13:04:10 Mizushima has joined #wot-pf 13:07:32 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, David_Ezell 13:07:35 topic: Minutes 13:07:38 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html Aug-20 13:08:03 present+ Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:08:18 rrsagent, make log public 13:08:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:08:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:08:28 dezell has joined #wot-pf 13:08:32 present+ David_Ezell 13:08:45 chair: Koster 13:09:02 mjk: (goes through the minutes) 13:10:50 ... any comments? 13:10:53 (none) 13:11:07 q? 13:11:08 mjk: any objections? 13:11:12 (none) 13:11:16 approved 13:11:47 topic: Logistics 13:11:54 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/plugfest/2025-tpac-kobe Plugfest logistics 13:12:56 kaz: think we can ask people about their updates 13:13:18 ... and then ask them to add the updates to their ideas on the GitHub page 13:13:20 mjk: yeah 13:13:22 q+ 13:13:46 q+ 13:14:24 kaz: ECHONET can provide the same devices they provided for WoT Week last year 13:14:36 mjk: need a dedicated bridge? 13:14:49 kaz: they themselves should be able to provide one for WoT connection 13:14:51 q- 13:16:51 ek: what to be checked for ECHONET Lite Web API devices? 13:17:20 ... would see the possible binding based on the WoT Binding Template mechanism 13:17:28 kaz: yeah, you can propose it :) 13:18:24 ... let's create a subsection under the "Proposed topics" and start concrete discussion 13:18:45 subtopic: WoT Registry 13:19:20 ek: regarding the third bullet, interested in WoT Registry 13:19:37 s/subtopic: WoT Registry// 13:20:19 ... also regarding the "Demo devices" table, should add concrete information. right? 13:20:20 kaz: yes 13:20:36 ... will ask the ECHONET guys about their devices 13:20:53 ... you can also put your devices to the table 13:21:09 topic: Possible Topics 13:21:23 mjk: we already have ECHONET Lite Web API as a possible topic 13:22:08 ek: would clarify what we expect specifically from external SDOs 13:24:18 kaz: I'll create sub sections for the "Proposed topic", and then you all can put your expectations to each section 13:24:54 ek: btw, we should use one-level upper layer for the folder, which we used for WoT Week? 13:25:23 kaz: we use this "Plugfest" layer for TPAC Plugfests, but I'm OK to moving this README to one-level upper layer 13:25:35 ek: would ask the others about their ideas also 13:26:00 de: like last year we discovered, look at the group 13:26:08 ... want to see what would happen 13:26:27 ... e.g., questions about security and interoperability for retail operations 13:26:42 ek: need to get connected with the others? 13:27:00 de: like last year, there would be somebody :) 13:27:07 q+ 13:27:29 ek: so interoperability of the Conexxus devices with others 13:27:55 mjk: you already have actual specs on your side 13:28:20 de: would also see Binding and Profile 13:28:39 ... hopefully will be what people would think 13:28:42 mjk: yeah 13:28:59 ... would ask people for opinions around both the mechanisms 13:29:26 ek: we had problem with checking Profile due to the network connection? 13:29:49 de: by the time early next year, we'll publish our new spec 13:29:59 ... to work with both Binding and Profile 13:30:55 ek: please note that Binding or Profile is not a normative spec 13:31:13 de: but still gives directions for us for interoperability 13:31:26 ... need to do this kind of work 13:31:50 kaz: great! 13:32:00 ... please put your ideas to the subsections 13:33:22 ... just to make sure, I'll bring the wot-testing/events/plugfest/2025-tpac-kobe/README.md to wot-testing/events/2025-tpac-kobe/README.md 13:33:25 ek: ok 13:34:02 de: will have the Conexxus Show in Cicago in October 13:34:34 kaz: so you can bring something based on the demo there to TPAC :) 13:34:38 de: yeah 13:34:49 ... would be confident about the milestone 13:34:59 rrsagent, make log public 13:35:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:35:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:35:16 mjk: what else? 13:35:25 ek: would ask Toumura-san about his ideas also 13:35:34 toumura: would try some tooling 13:35:48 ... get connected with people's devices 13:35:56 ek: some kind of mash-up 13:36:02 toumura: yeah 13:36:16 ek: David is interested the retail domain 13:36:28 ... but Toumura-san is interested in more generic mechanism 13:36:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:37:32 kaz: in that case, having "Demo devices" is not really appropriate 13:37:50 ... and can be included in the "Topics" section 13:38:02 ... also we can describe possible applications 13:38:06 ek: exactly 13:38:35 ... can add those changes 13:39:00 kaz: in that case, you can move the file to the events layer also :) 13:39:20 ek: btw, what about the last two topics? 13:39:28 ... OCPP and NGSI-LD 13:39:30 q+ 13:39:40 de: no 13:41:09 ... don't think we have a demonstration about that at the moment 13:42:35 kaz: let's keep the current list, and also add a specific subsection under the list 13:42:41 mjk: agree 13:43:27 q+ 13:43:30 ack e 13:44:42 topic: Next Steps 13:45:07 kaz: can move the README.md to the events layer with the proposed changes quickly 13:45:21 ek: actually, already created a PR for the current README.md... 13:45:48 kaz: in that case, we can quickly review it and then I can work on further improvement 13:45:56 ... then people can work on their proposals 13:45:59 mjk: ok 13:46:13 q? 13:46:25 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/617 Ege's PR 617 - Add more specific topics 13:46:26 q- 13:46:32 mjk: any objections? 13:46:36 (none) 13:47:00 merged 13:47:48 kaz: will work on further improvements, and then let you all know once it's done 13:47:49 q? 13:47:51 mjk: ok 13:47:57 ... anything else for today? 13:48:00 (none) 13:48:10 [adjourned] 13:48:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:48:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 14:09:21 Ege has joined #wot-pf 14:11:12 Ege has joined #wot-pf