11:56:12 RRSAgent has joined #wot 11:56:17 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-irc 11:56:18 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 12:00:30 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#10_September_2025 12:01:44 chair: Koster 12:02:27 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:02:28 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:02:59 McCool has joined #wot 12:03:46 present+ Michael_McCool 12:04:02 rrsagent, make log public 12:04:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:04:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:04:27 q+ 12:05:35 q- 12:05:52 present+ Ben_Francis 12:06:00 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:06:01 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:07:45 scribenick: kaz 12:08:57 topic: Guests, IEs 12:09:05 regrets+ Sebastian 12:09:33 mjk: IE request from McCool 12:09:46 (to be reviewed during the Chairs call) 12:10:03 kaz: also McCool is a guest for today 12:10:09 topic: Minutes 12:10:18 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/09/03-wot-minutes.html Sep-3 12:10:24 mjk: (goes through the minutes) 12:11:23 ... any corrections/updates? 12:11:28 (none) 12:11:35 approved 12:11:48 topic: Quick items 12:11:53 subtopic: Profile 12:12:11 mjk: thought we had got resolution for Profile last week 12:12:35 ... publishing the draft as a WD would be able to avoid extra work 12:12:52 Proposal: The WoT Working Group agrees to publish the current Editor's Draft of Web 12:12:52 of Things (WoT) Profiles as an updated Working Draft. 12:13:05 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-wg/2025Sep/0005.html 12:13:20 q+ 12:13:38 s/resolution/proposal/ 12:13:49 ack b 12:14:00 bf: sent an email about the proposal to the list 12:14:03 dezell has joined #wot 12:14:11 present+ David_Ezell 12:14:25 ... not 100% happy myself given the 6-mo hard work 12:14:35 ... but need to follow the W3C Process 12:14:58 ... anyway, good to publish a well-polished document 12:15:02 mjk: yeah 12:15:16 ... thank you for your work! 12:15:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:15:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:15:48 q? 12:16:09 ... any objections? 12:16:27 (none) 12:16:58 Resolutionl: The WoT Working Group agrees to publish the current Editor's Draft of Web of Things (WoT) Profiles as an updated Working Draft 12:17:13 q+ 12:17:17 s/Resolution/Resolution 12:17:20 dape has joined #wot 12:17:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:17:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:17:32 s/Resolutionl/Resolution 12:17:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:17:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:17:57 https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/446 12:18:43 bf: btw, there was a problem about the obsolete HTTP reference 12:18:49 ... a PR available as above 12:19:29 kaz: you can quickly show the changes, and we can quickly merge that :) 12:19:35 bf: (shows the changes) 12:19:46 mjk: ok, we can merge this now 12:19:54 ... any objections? 12:20:00 (none) 12:20:00 q+ 12:20:08 ack b 12:20:15 s/(none)// 12:20:21 dp: that's OK 12:20:29 ... but same problem with Discovery as well 12:20:39 ... so we should work on this for the other specs too 12:20:41 mjk: ok 12:20:59 (no objections to merge PR 446 itself) 12:21:05 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:21:22 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:21:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:21:30 Ege has joined #wot 12:21:40 merged 12:21:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:21:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:22:18 subtopic: TD Publication Status 12:22:55 ek: added the information to the agenda as a separate section 12:23:18 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Document_Transitions TD stauts 12:24:16 -> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/738 Transition Request for TD 2.0 FPWD 12:24:25 ek: the transition request has been already approved 12:24:38 ... but we forgot to confirm the shortname for that purpose 12:24:49 ... that is "wot-thing-description-2.0" 12:24:53 ... is that OK? 12:25:36 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 12:26:00 proposal: the WoT-WG would like to use "wot-thing-description-2.0" as the shortname URL for TD 2.0 publication 12:26:20 q+ 12:26:21 mjk: any objections? 12:26:45 dp: just wondering different pattern from our previous notation... 12:26:57 ack d 12:27:07 ek: can understand what you mean 12:27:10 https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-thing-description/ 12:27:48 ... we used to use "wot-thing-description11" for 1.1 12:27:55 s|https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-thing-description/|| 12:28:02 https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-thing-description10/ 12:28:09 https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-thing-description11 12:28:20 s|11|11/| 12:28:35 s|10/|10/ for 1.0| 12:28:53 s|on11/|on11/ for 1.1| 12:29:04 q+ 12:30:10 q- 12:30:23 kaz: yes, the change was the conclusion of the TD-TF :) 12:30:34 q? 12:32:25 bf: just wondering about the redirection mechanism, but OK with the proposal 12:33:23 mjk: any objections for the resolution? 12:33:24 (none) 12:33:30 Resolution: the WoT-WG would like to use "wot-thing-description-2.0" as the shortname URL for TD 2.0 publication 12:33:33 resolution: the WoT-WG would like to use "wot-thing-description-2.0" as the shortname URL for TD 2.0 publication 12:33:40 s/resolution: the WoT-WG would like to use "wot-thing-description-2.0" as the shortname URL for TD 2.0 publication// 12:33:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:33:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:34:24 -> https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/737 Transition Request for Registry 12:35:30 proposal: the WoT-WG would like to use "wot-binding-registry" as the shortname URL for WoT Binding Registry 12:36:07 ek: transition request has been updated but we need to confirm the URL for this too 12:36:16 mjk: any objections? 12:36:28 (none) 12:36:34 Resolution: the WoT-WG would like to use "wot-binding-registry" as the shortname URL for WoT Binding Registry 12:36:41 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:36:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:37:18 ek: regarding Binding Templates Note, we've already agreed to publish it as a retired Note 12:37:25 ... just working on the "retired style" 12:37:39 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/ updated Note 12:38:07 q+ 12:38:28 q- 12:39:20 q+ 12:40:05 q- 12:40:22 topic: Use Case Planning 12:40:58 mm: we spent today's call to polish the UCR document 12:41:20 https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/387 12:41:23 ... as an invited guest, created a PR for further improvement 12:42:18 ... should be much cleaner now 12:43:02 q+ 12:43:28 mjk: what kind of action is expected? 12:43:36 mm: would get a review by people 12:46:05 kaz: tx for your hard work 12:46:39 ... @@1 input from outside 12:46:58 ... @@2 bigger change due to the IG merge 12:47:34 ... so wondering until when we need to merge this PR 12:47:39 ... before TPAC? 12:47:52 mm: would be ideal to merge this before TPAC 12:48:38 ... btw, it might be cleaner to publish this as an updated IG Note before the merger of the IG 12:49:09 kaz: ok 12:49:23 ... so we as the whole group would like to ask everybody for review 12:49:25 mm: right 12:49:28 mjk: ok 12:50:12 kaz: yeah, publishing an updated UCR note including the updated template and background description would be better 12:51:06 mjk: ok, let's start the review 12:51:11 ... anything else? 12:51:42 (none) 12:51:49 topic: Schedule 12:52:11 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events Holidays and Events 12:52:20 mjk: (quickly skim the list there) 12:52:30 [[ 12:52:30 McCool: less available after the end of August 12:52:31 Sebastian: unavailable on Sep 10-11 12:52:31 Ege: unavailable Sep 17-18, Sep 24 only via phone. 12:52:31 ]] 12:52:36 mjk: anything else? 12:52:53 topic: New Charter 12:53:24 mjk: we were talking about 3-mo as our expected extension 12:53:44 ... but given the holidays around year end, should we ask for 6-mo extension instead? 12:53:52 ... that wouldn't hurt anything 12:54:01 q+ 12:54:02 q+ to hear from Kaz about the mood. 12:54:40 kaz: yeah, 6-mo would be safer 12:55:19 de: yeah, also would go for 6-mo 12:55:56 ... just wanted to know about the mood 12:56:06 kaz: we can easily get a 6-mo extension :) 12:56:08 de: ok 12:56:18 ack d 12:56:18 dezell, you wanted to hear from Kaz about the mood. 12:56:19 q? 12:56:23 q- 12:56:40 mjk: any objections? 12:57:27 (none) 12:58:16 Resolution: We will ask for a 6 month extension to the current Web of Things Working Group charter 12:58:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:58:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:58:41 topic: AOB 12:59:03 kaz: if people want, we can have some discussion about the Plugfest plan after the main call 12:59:05 ntd 12:59:31 mjk: yes, let's keep the Zoom call open, we can start the next call in 5 mins 12:59:40 s/ntd// 12:59:43 [adjourned] 12:59:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:59:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:07:38 TallTed has joined #wot 14:09:21 Ege has joined #wot 14:11:12 Ege has joined #wot 15:10:01 denkeni has joined #wot 15:13:44 Zakim has left #wot 15:59:26 bigbluehat has joined #wot