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14:48:09 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:48:24 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
14:48:34 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
14:48:58 <Fazio> agenda+ New Business
14:49:14 <Fazio> agenda+ Publication Update
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15:03:44 <CharlesL> agenda?
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15:06:56 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
15:06:56 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
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15:07:11 <CharlesL> q+
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15:07:34 <janina> ack ch
15:07:39 <jkline> present+
15:07:45 <jkline> having zoom issues
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15:08:59 <JeffAdams-UN> CharlesL: Bennetech's maturity model and refinement in education space. Confusion on proof points around ICT and not a common term in edu space. Looked up ICT and more preveilent in EU and other international circles and not in US
15:09:24 <JeffAdams-UN> ... EdTech might be too narrow since might be computers in general
15:09:52 <JeffAdams-UN> ... thinking might adjust Benntech model to Digital Tech
15:10:16 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Agrees that ICT isn't well known outside of policy areas
15:10:33 <JeffAdams-UN> ... suggests to file a note so that it's a term you might want to adjust based on application area.
15:11:14 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: doubts we'll find just one term for it. worth a discussion
15:11:21 <JeffAdams-UN> CharlesL: will add an issue.
15:12:26 <Fazio> The key thing I hear here is "international"
15:12:38 <Fazio> we want internationalization
15:14:23 <JeffAdams-UN> Jeff Kline: Thinks all we need to do is to add a sentence that says it may also be referrened to as "digital technology... etc." As long as we reference it should be okay.
15:14:54 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: Important to make this global, and not just one industry.
15:15:47 <JeffAdams-UN> CharlesL: Will take this back to his team. Survey he'd launched on this indicated ICT wasn't known.
15:16:24 <JeffAdams-UN> Jeff Kline: If someone doesn't know ICT, should they be completing the survey?
15:17:10 <JeffAdams-UN> CharlesL: Admits to having to re-read the definition because it wasn't common.
15:17:58 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: It's policy language, not QA, not analysts, and not others. it's a term that's not used.
15:18:43 <JeffAdams-UN> CharlesL: Will do some follow up on this.
15:19:48 <CharlesL> JeffAdams-UN: we work with folks who are very early we want as little friction as possible as we need this to be global. how it is presented how it is filled out, yes there is some homework but we want as frictionless as possible.
15:20:25 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Don't need to define everything, but need to get the meaning across and what the variable is.
15:22:25 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: pulled standard definition of ICT, and it's a bit of a convoluted definition. having it in there might be good for legal definition.
15:22:36 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: we won't change, only ampilfy
15:23:06 <JeffAdams-UN> Neha: want the model to reach as many people as possible, so redefining definition makes sense
15:23:18 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: more interested in being functional in organizations
15:23:47 <JeffAdams-UN> ... will try to give us a suggestion to consider
15:24:03 <JeffAdams-UN> ... this would be something to put in before final publish
15:26:46 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:26:46 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, JeffAdams-UN
15:26:52 <CharlesL> q?
15:27:01 <JeffAdams-UN> ack janina
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15:27:14 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, next item
15:27:14 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Publication Update -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:28:07 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: out for wide review since spetember 2. haven't gotten any feedback yet on GitHub Repo. Not necessarily a bad thing and we weren't expecting a lot of comments.
15:28:31 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: Was some LinkedIN sharing. Let's keep that going
15:28:56 <JeffAdams-UN> janina: Expects if we get comments that it'll be near then end. But also doesn't expects any
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15:30:05 <CharlesL> Here is the new Issue I just created https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/298
15:30:06 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/298 -> Issue 298 ICT is not widely known - definition doesn't really help (by clapierre)
15:33:46 <JeffAdams-UN> Fazio: Next meeeting will be in a couple of weeks. We'll see if any issues between now and then. We can work on ICT definition in the meantime. Next meeting we'll talk about how ot move forward
15:36:16 <JeffAdams-UN> zakim, end meeting
15:36:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, CharlesL, JeffAdams-UN, Neha, janina, jkline, stacey
15:36:18 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:36:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
15:36:28 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, JeffAdams-UN; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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