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12:47:03 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
12:47:21 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
12:47:27 <janina> Date: 10 Sep 2025
12:47:33 <janina> Chair: Matthew
12:47:37 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
12:47:37 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2025
12:47:37 <janina> agenda+ New charters
12:47:37 <janina> agenda+ New on TR
12:47:37 <janina> agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues)
12:47:40 <janina> agenda+ [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues)
12:47:42 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
12:47:45 <janina> agenda+ Actions check-in
12:47:47 <janina> agenda+ Other business
12:47:50 <janina> agenda+ Be done
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13:51:36 <matatk> regrets+ Gottfried_Zimmermann
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13:57:41 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:57:41 <Zakim> Present: janina
13:57:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see Fazio, matatk, shawn, RRSAgent, Zakim, gb, janina, alastairc, slightlyoff, hdv, chrishtr, Rachael, tink, vmpstr, jyasskin, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
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14:04:19 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up item 1
14:04:19 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:04:24 <Neha> present+
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14:04:59 <matatk> subtopic: Maturity Model Wide Review
14:05:13 <Fredrik> Wowowowowowowowowow!
14:05:27 <mike_beganyi> Fazio: Maturity Model out for wide review.
14:05:29 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/TR/maturity-model/
14:05:50 <stevef> may be of interest: Screen Reader HTML Support – Lookup https://cdpn.io/pen/debug/ByoMebv
14:06:39 <mike_beganyi> janina: Not reviewing on GitHub. Reason we're out for wide review preparatory for us to say we're done. We all need to vote on it when it's time to publish. If you want an early peek, can find in following link.
14:07:08 <matatk> subtopic: Screen Reader HTML support
14:07:24 <matatk> HT SteveF may be of interest: Screen Reader HTML Support – Lookup https://cdpn.io/pen/debug/ByoMebv
14:07:36 <janina> Maturity Model Wide Review Announcement: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-announce/2025JulSep/0003.html
14:08:14 <mike_beganyi> stevef: WIP demonstration of HTML support for screen readers.
14:09:19 <matatk> subtopic: Horizontal review process - for us
14:09:51 <janina> matatk: Documentation mostly complete for our procedures
14:10:42 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Thinking of APA's real value about what we add regarding technical stuff, but we think about use cases others don't
14:11:42 <mike_beganyi> ...There are a number of new members who can bring new perspectives to that work. Might be helpful to point to collection of use cases we've already got and can expand upon.
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14:12:56 <mike_beganyi> ...Give guidance to spec authors so that we don't need to take on as much effort as we do now. Some pointers will be helpful.
14:14:06 <mike_beganyi> janina: This is absolutely important and contribute to. Doesn't normally come to us as a use case. We see from horizontal reviews that something is missing and that's very valuable to specify and elucidate.
14:14:16 <matatk> q?
14:14:34 <matatk> subtopic: Horizontal review process - for spec authors
14:14:34 <matatk> Matthew explaining the gist of this, but here are some totally optional to read, and very deep in thread details of the very latest ideas around how to make it easier for groups to contact APA (posting in case you want to see TAG and APA interacting): https://github.com/w3ctag/accessibility-screener/pull/9#discussion_r2334860052
14:15:23 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Number of things we're working on with TAG and FAST to make spec authoring much quicker.
14:15:53 <mike_beganyi> matatk: TAG has a screener (questionnaire) to help authors identify accessibility gaps
14:17:56 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Make the process easier for all to participate. More info coming later but consult previous link for info
14:17:59 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:17:59 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2025 -- taken up [from janina]
14:18:15 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:18:15 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
14:18:16 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:18:16 <Zakim> 3. New charters [from janina]
14:18:17 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:18:18 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New charters -- taken up [from janina]
14:18:23 <Roy_Ruoxi> subtopic: Web & AI Interest Group
14:18:23 <Roy_Ruoxi> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/2025/webai-ig.html
14:18:23 <Roy_Ruoxi> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/511
14:19:00 <mike_beganyi> Roy_Ruoxi: Wide program to involve the community in discussing AI
14:19:57 <mike_beganyi> janina: Not too concerned given Roy's involvement.
14:20:40 <mike_beganyi> Roy_Ruoxi: Involve some of RQTF's work.
14:20:48 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Accessibility is mentioned in this charter.
14:21:25 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Makes sense to add privacy and accessibility to this, given nature of AI at the moment
14:21:53 <mike_beganyi> Roy_Ruoxi: Want to find a place to have research on AI in W3C. Maybe I will add one of two (security and privacy) to this
14:22:28 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:22:28 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New on TR -- taken up [from janina]
14:22:37 <mike_beganyi> zakim, close this item
14:22:37 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:22:38 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:22:38 <Zakim> 5. [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) [from janina]
14:22:39 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:22:40 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:23:48 <matatk> subtopic: IMSC Text Profile 1.3
14:23:48 <matatk> due: 2025-09-12
14:23:48 <matatk> tracking issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/252
14:23:48 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Talked recently about Jen's idea to have a tracking thread
14:24:09 <mike_beganyi> s/thread/issue
14:24:54 <mike_beganyi> matatk: [read's Tiffany's comment from GitHub]
14:25:00 <mike_beganyi> s/read's/reads
14:26:02 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Think that accessibility of these characters is important. I think we should write back and ask Tiffany to suggest some text as an example
14:26:57 <matatk> q?
14:27:04 <mike_beganyi> janina: Will be good to specify how to do this before suggesting
14:27:39 <mike_beganyi> Neha: They have not added super- and subscript text. The issue list mentions these but not elsewhere. I couldn't find anything on the page, had to read into the spec
14:28:52 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Could you try the process of leaving a comment as specified in the APA outline.
14:28:58 <mike_beganyi> Neha: Sure.
14:29:39 <matatk> subtopic: DID Resolution
14:29:39 <matatk> due: 2025-09-25
14:29:39 <matatk> public request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/127
14:32:31 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Make sure there are alternative representations of data as specified at the previous link.
14:32:49 <mike_beganyi> janina: Can add me, Matthew. Not sure we'll find anything that's not text-related.
14:33:57 <matatk> subtopic: Screen Orientation
14:33:57 <matatk> due: 2025-10-16
14:33:57 <matatk> public request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/126
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14:34:56 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Specifise types and angles of screen orientation and a means of locking and unlocking it.
14:36:06 <mike_beganyi> matatk: They have an a11y considerations section already. Some stuff mentioned there that immediately comes to mind.
14:37:21 <mike_beganyi> Neha: Please add me to that, Matthew.
14:37:48 <matatk> subtopic: Dubbing and Audio description Profiles of TTML2 (DAPT)
14:37:48 <matatk> due: 2025-10-18
14:37:48 <matatk> public request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/124
14:38:52 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Very well written spec. They are into accessibility considerations.
14:39:14 <mike_beganyi> matatk: [Janina and Fredrik volunteer]
14:39:20 <mike_beganyi> zakim, take up next item
14:39:20 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- [Issue tracking](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues) -- taken up [from janina]
14:39:38 <matatk> subtopic: WebDriver commands to enable and disable full accessibility support in browser
14:39:38 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/251
14:41:09 <mike_beganyi> matatk: About programmatic control of browser. No way to enable or disable accessibility support from within browser. [Proceeds to summarize the issue from the previous link]
14:43:44 <matatk> subtopic: Badging API - Add Accessibility considerations section
14:43:44 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/250
14:45:24 <mike_beganyi> matatk: a11y considerations section needed.
14:46:47 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Will add you Jon.
14:47:49 <matatk> subtopic: Giving ::scroll-marker-group a name (and optionally text)
14:47:49 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/249
14:48:42 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Issue wants to add label but role not possible yet. [Summarizes Pau;'s comment]
14:49:02 <mike_beganyi> s/Pau;'s/Paul's
14:50:17 <mike_beganyi> matatk: About pseudo element related to scroll markers group that gives it a label and semantics in CSS
14:50:45 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Will add you, Steve.
14:51:33 <matatk> subtopic: [Range] What is the label?
14:51:33 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-tracking/issues/246
14:53:08 <mike_beganyi> matatk: Imagine a fieldset for ranges. Imagine range of time. This is semantically grouping those. Not sure why fieldset or nested fieldset isn't suggested.
14:53:31 <matatk> q?
14:53:51 <mike_beganyi> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-apa-minutes.html mike_beganyi
14:55:52 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
14:55:52 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, stevef, Demelza, Glenda, JenStrickland, Fredrik, Roy_Ruoxi, Fazio, matatk, mike_beganyi, Neha, Eric, JonCohn
14:55:55 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:55:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/10-apa-minutes.html Zakim
14:56:01 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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