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11:47:21 <TallTed> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-09-08.md
11:47:22 <agendabot> clear agenda
11:47:22 <agendabot> agenda+ Discussion
11:47:22 <agendabot> agenda+ Process
11:47:23 <TallTed> meeting: Data Shapes WG
11:47:25 <TallTed> present+
11:47:27 <TallTed> chair: elianaP
11:47:47 <TallTed> clear agenda
11:47:57 <TallTed> agenda+ Task Force reports
11:48:03 <TallTed> agenda+ Vote on short URIs for publishing phase 2 docs
11:48:15 <TallTed> agenda+ Check in with Editors for Core & SPARQL to go to Horizontal Review
11:48:33 <TallTed> agenda+ Reminder: add new document CSS/JS to "common"
11:49:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
11:50:24 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/09/02-data-shapes-minutes.html
11:50:24 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/09/09-data-shapes-minutes.html
11:50:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
11:52:24 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/09/01-data-shapes-minutes.html
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11:58:24 <TallTed> minutes for 2025-09-01 (https://www.w3.org/2025/09/01-data-shapes-minutes.html) look rather skimpy. Did something go wrong with TF meeting overwriting WG logs somehow? both Mon & Tues meetings start at midnight GMT, which can cause trouble with some automatic bot actions
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12:01:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
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12:02:48 <caribou> present+ Carine
12:02:56 <HolgerK> present+
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12:03:41 <mgberg> topic: Task Force Reports
12:04:18 <TallTed> s|minutes for 2025-09-01 (https://www.w3.org/2025/09/01-data-shapes-minutes.html) look rather skimpy. Did something go wrong with TF meeting overwriting WG logs somehow? both Mon & Tues meetings start at midnight GMT, which can cause trouble with some automatic bot actions||
12:04:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:04:32 <TallTed> agenda?
12:04:55 <TallTed> Zakim, next item
12:04:56 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Task Force reports -- taken up [from TallTed]
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12:05:22 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'who is here'
12:05:55 <simonstey> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/513 the PR Holger was talking about
12:06:30 <bergos> present+
12:07:45 <caribou> Present+ AlexN, Eliana, Edmond, Matt Goldberg, Ojngen
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12:10:23 <mgberg> nicholascar- Profiling TF- need to narrow down what is in scope for profiling over the next couple weeks
12:11:11 <mgberg> zakim, next agendum
12:11:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Vote on short URIs for publishing phase 2 docs -- taken up [from TallTed]
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12:17:21 <TallTed> elianaP, caribou, nicholascar -- w3c calendar thinks we have only 3 TFs (https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/data-shapes/task-forces/), but agenda suggests we have 7 (https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-09-08.md). Can we get these aligned, and make it plain how to join each TF?
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12:17:30 <nicholascar> q+
12:17:38 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:17:51 <nicholascar> I have added the suggested short URIs to the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-09-08.md
12:17:57 <mgberg> Oggy: New member, experience with recursion in SHACL and SHEX
12:18:12 <Oggy> Hi All
12:18:55 <AndyS> q+
12:19:30 <mgberg> zakim, show agenda
12:19:30 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
12:19:31 <Zakim> 2. Vote on short URIs for publishing phase 2 docs [from TallTed]
12:19:31 <Zakim> 3. Check in with Editors for Core & SPARQL to go to Horizontal Review [from TallTed]
12:19:31 <Zakim> 4. Reminder: add new document CSS/JS to "common" [from TallTed]
12:19:58 <elianaP> q?
12:20:31 <elianaP> ack nicholascar
12:20:58 <ajnelson-nist> ack me
12:21:22 <mgberg> elianaP: Documents will include 1.2 in URL
12:21:49 <mgberg> nicholascar: URLs without version number will resolve to the new specification as well
12:22:52 <mgberg> AndyS: Two URLs per document: shacl12-name (this version) and shacl-name (current)
12:23:38 <bergos> q+
12:23:50 <AndyS> ack me
12:25:03 <nicholascar> q+
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12:25:50 <nicholascar> ack me
12:25:50 <bergos> ack me
12:26:34 <mgberg3> elianaP: Make decision about short URIs based on the mailing list
12:26:42 <mgberg3> zakim, next agendum
12:26:42 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Check in with Editors for Core & SPARQL to go to Horizontal Review -- taken up [from TallTed]
12:27:43 <mgberg3> nicholascar: Willing to work on editoral work necessary
12:27:50 <mgberg3> ... Need short URIs,
12:28:06 <mgberg3> ... Need to agree on whether to go to horizontal review
12:28:09 <mgberg3> ... need explainer
12:29:23 <mgberg3> ... may need some more information on what is new in this revision and why these changes are made
12:29:54 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:30:08 <ajnelson-nist> q-
12:30:09 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:32:43 <ajnelson-nist> Accessibility might get some words from the UI document.
12:32:57 <mgberg3> AndyS: Should be able to reference existing what's new sections, note that we're picking up RDF 1.2
12:33:37 <ajnelson-nist> s/might get/might be able to get/
12:33:44 <fsasaki> +1
12:33:54 <elianaP> q?
12:34:53 <ajnelson-nist> ack me
12:36:49 <mgberg3> caribou: Information about new features is to point out those new features to reviewers
12:37:42 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:37:48 <mgberg3> ... Tickets will be opened for each group, plus one should be opened in our repo with pointers to those other tickets
12:38:16 <elianaP> q?
12:38:33 <ajnelson-nist> ack me
12:38:49 <mgberg3> ajnelson-nist: UI group will have comments about accessibility
12:39:07 <mgberg3> zakim, next agendum
12:39:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Reminder: add new document CSS/JS to "common" -- taken up [from TallTed]
12:40:09 <TallTed> Q=
12:40:11 <elianaP> q?
12:41:05 <TallTed> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/?search=shacl
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12:41:09 <mgberg> TallTed: Not all task forces are shown on the calendar
12:41:24 <TallTed> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/?search=rules
12:42:40 <TallTed> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/infrules/
12:42:47 <AndyS> q+
12:43:52 <AndyS> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/infrules/calendar/
12:48:56 <AndyS> ack me
12:51:15 <TallTed> Data Shapes Working Group - Calendar w/Task Forces (but no Rules) -> https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/data-shapes/calendar/?tz=&tf=1&past=
12:57:13 <TallTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:57:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:57:32 <AndyS> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/data-shapes/gh-pages/shacl12-inf-rules/index.html
12:58:20 <AndyS> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/data-shapes/outline/shacl12-inf-rules/index.html#drafting
12:58:24 <TallTed> i/Task Force Reports/scribe: mgberg
12:58:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:58:54 <TallTed> s/nicholascar- Profiling/nicholascar: Profiling/
12:59:22 <TallTed> i/Task Force Reports/scribe+ mgberg3
12:59:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:00:09 <AndyS> Next meeting SPARQL Rules TF : https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/4294c4a9-0858-4557-a0ae-fa0f8a9617c2/20250909T100000/
13:01:29 <elianaP> present+
13:01:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html elianaP
13:02:25 <AndyS> github issues by label https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3AInferencing
13:04:17 <AndyS> Renamed label: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues?q=state%3Aopen%20label%3ARules
13:04:55 <TallTed> s/by label https/by label -> https/
13:05:08 <AndyS> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/issues/565
13:05:17 <TallTed> s/Renamed label: https/Renamed label -> https/
13:05:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:07:30 <TallTed> s/topic: Task Force Reports//
13:07:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:12:31 <TallTed> Zakim, end meeting
13:12:31 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been TallTed, Robert, DavidHabgood, AndyS, nicholascar, Simon, ieben, Carine, HolgerK, simonstey, fsasaki, bergos, AlexN, Eliana, Edmond, Matt,
13:12:35 <Zakim> ... Goldberg, Ojngen, elianaP
13:12:35 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:12:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/08-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
13:12:43 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, TallTed; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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13:12:48 <TallTed> RRSAgent, bye
13:12:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items