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13:53:22 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2025Sep/0000
13:53:33 <Steven> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
13:53:33 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:53:33 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
13:53:47 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-ixml-minutes.html
13:53:52 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
13:53:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/02-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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13:56:54 <Steven> Present: Steven, John
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13:57:50 <Steven> Present+Nico
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14:00:39 <Steven> Present+Bethan
14:00:43 <Steven> Present+Norm
14:01:13 <Steven> Present+David
14:01:36 <Steven> Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
14:01:38 <Steven> [Agreed]
14:02:08 <Steven> 2024-10-01-e: SP to review ixml tests and correct the grammar
14:02:12 <Steven> [Done]
14:03:21 <Steven> 2025-04-15-a: NW to try to clarify “parse tree” in the specification in a way that is satisfactory to everyone
14:03:39 <Steven> This is dependent on 2025-08-19-a
14:03:54 <Steven> 2025-08-19-b: SP to remove S06 from the specification.
14:04:37 <Steven> Steven: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2025Aug/0005.html covers this
14:04:52 <Steven> ... all similar errors to be removed
14:05:04 <Steven> 2025-08-19-c: BTW to attempt to rewrite #19 so that it's clearer.
14:05:08 <Steven> [Done]
14:05:15 <Steven> 2025-08-19-d: SP to add the modularization paper to the Invisible XML repository
14:05:27 <norm> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues
14:05:31 <norm> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml
14:05:40 <Steven> Norm: That's the one
14:05:50 <Steven> \2025-08-19-e: SP to assemble a discussion document for the conference.
14:05:53 <Steven> [Done]
14:06:14 <Steven> Topic: Status reports
14:06:20 <Steven> [None]
14:06:31 <Steven> Topic: New open issues
14:06:55 <Steven> John: Please read and see what you think
14:07:13 <Steven> ... for partial parses on a document that has already been through icml
14:07:19 <Steven> s/icml/ixml/
14:07:49 <Steven> Bethan: Since this isn't a proposal, can we put it off
14:07:51 <Steven> John: OK
14:08:21 <Steven> Topic: Review of BTW’s reformulation of #19
14:09:19 <norm> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/blob/master/proposals/pragma_req.md
14:10:06 <Steven> Steven: Looks OK
14:10:11 <Steven> All: Agree
14:10:35 <Steven> [Bethan disappears]
14:10:45 <Steven> [Bethan reappears]
14:11:21 <Steven> Steven: Next meeting move ahead on pragmas
14:11:36 <Steven> Bethan: Now we can move to proposal for pragmas
14:11:57 <Steven> Topic: ixml Symposium
14:13:05 <Steven> Norm: We need to have some criteria  for accepting.
14:13:41 <norm> FYI: https://www.w3.org/policies/code-of-conduct/
14:13:43 <Steven> Bethan: We need a code of conduct, are we required to use W3C's code?
14:14:45 <Steven> David: If it is sponsored by the CG, it is W3C; other option is the 6 of us to sponsor the symposium
14:15:44 <Steven> Norm: I can confirm we are required to use the W3C one
14:16:36 <Steven> Nico: It is very clear
14:17:24 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to ask W3C if there are any particulars about a CG meeting
14:18:25 <Steven> Norm: It would be my preference to do it from the CG
14:20:12 <Steven> [Discussion about which Zoom licence to use]
14:22:00 <Steven> Steven: We agree to allow audience as well as presenters.
14:22:53 <Steven> Bethan: If we get too many submissions, then we should select, so we shouldn't guarantee acceptation.
14:23:37 <Steven> ... I want to propose we have a rule about rpesentations around LLMs that the LLM being used doesn't use non-consented content.
14:23:53 <Steven> s/rpesentations/presentations/
14:25:47 <Steven> Norm: I'd liek to do the text manipulation offline
14:26:45 <Steven> ... Would we allow people to refuse to be recorded?
14:26:53 <Steven> s/liek/like/
14:27:29 <Steven> David: I think it reasonable to keep presentations for the sake of the symposium
14:28:34 <Steven> Bethan: I think insisting on recordings might have a chilling effect for some people.
14:29:06 <Steven> ... we should allow people afterwards to decide
14:29:21 <Steven> Norm: More work
14:29:40 <Steven> Nico: Who will edit the recordings?
14:29:44 <Steven> Bethan: I will
14:30:15 <Steven> Norm: Then we can allow people to review it in that case
14:31:32 <Steven> Steven: Dates? Th/Fr 26/27 Feb?
14:33:00 <Steven> All: Looks good
14:34:21 <Steven> Steven: Time?
14:34:30 <Steven> John: I propose an hour later
14:34:59 <Steven> Norm: Makes sense
14:35:03 <Steven> Steven: So resolved
14:35:58 <Steven> Steven: Web page on invisiblexml.org; we would need to make a registration page.
14:37:03 <Steven> Topic: Modularisation
14:37:09 <Steven> John: I have a demo
14:46:39 <Steven> [Demo of modularisation]
14:47:27 <Steven> Topic: Next meeting
14:47:45 <Steven> Steven: 30th September, John scribing
14:47:56 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:48:18 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:48:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/02-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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15:28:12 <Steven> i/2024-10-01-e: SP to review ixml tests and correct the grammar/Topic: Review of open actions
15:28:14 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:28:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/02-ixml-minutes.html Steven
16:19:38 <Steven> s/acceptation/acceptance
16:20:15 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
16:20:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/09/02-ixml-minutes.html Steven