13:02:36 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 13:02:40 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-irc 13:02:47 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2 13:03:04 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster 13:03:13 chair: Ege, Koster 13:04:49 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#August_27%2C_28_2025 13:04:51 jkrhb has joined #wot-td 13:04:53 scribenick: kaz 13:05:24 present+ Jan_Romann 13:05:51 rrsagent, make log public 13:05:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:05:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:07:54 topic: Agenda 13:08:09 ek: refactoring and document freeze 13:08:12 topic: Minutes 13:08:17 https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-wot-td-minutes.html 13:08:19 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-21 13:08:33 s|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-21|| 13:08:42 s|https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-wot-td-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-wot-td-minutes.html Aug-21| 13:08:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:08:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:08:53 ek: (goes through the minutes 13:09:00 s/minutes/minutes)/ 13:09:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:09:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:09:12 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:09:25 (approved) 13:10:29 topic: Thing Description 13:10:34 subtopic: PR 2127 13:11:17 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2127 TD PR 2127 - Moving Sebastian and McCool to formerEditors 13:11:31 ek: easy edit to move Sebastian and McCool to the Former Editors 13:11:33 q+ 13:12:00 present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi 13:12:02 q- 13:12:16 Mizushima has joined #wot-td 13:12:27 ... any comments? 13:12:37 ... who to be listed as Editors additionally? 13:12:46 (none) 13:12:50 (merged) 13:12:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:12:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:13:10 subtopic: PR 2128 13:13:30 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2128 TD PR 2128 - Temporary Context URL 13:13:47 ek: need to update the @context URL for the examples 13:13:50 cris has joined #wot-td 13:13:58 ... (shows example 1) 13:14:25 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2128.html#simple-thing-description-sample Example 1 withing the preview 13:14:32 q+ 13:14:35 dape has joined #wot-td 13:14:46 q+ 13:14:54 ca: we're replacing the URL 13:16:33 kaz: thought we already had discussion about the URL naming policy 13:17:08 ... so we should be careful to put our agreed style carefully 13:17:13 ek: right 13:17:28 ... we decide not to use the year number any more 13:17:36 ... but still would like to use the version number itself 13:19:29 kaz: like we did for WoT TD 1.0 Resources, we should clarify the namespace URL scheme, redirection setting, etc., and then can update the example 13:19:49 https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/tree/main 13:20:44 kaz: so we should do that again for TD 2.0 on wot-resources 13:26:09 q+ 13:26:52 ack c 13:27:02 +1 for td-next 13:27:07 q- 13:28:24 ack k 13:28:50 kaz: for a tentative use, I'm OK with any name like "ns/td" or "ns/td-next" 13:29:24 ... but what is more important is we surely update that "tentative" namespace URL later when the actual TD 2.0 namespace is fixed 13:30:46 ... so would suggest we put some explicit label to this point 13:30:59 ... and/or put an Editor's Note within the spec draft 13:31:02 ek: ok 13:31:18 topic: Registry 13:31:21 subtopic: PR 28 13:31:52 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/28 Registry PR 28 - Pilot Phase Information 13:32:00 ek: (describes the changes) 13:32:12 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/28/files changes 13:32:26 rrsagent, please draft the minutes 13:32:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html jkrhb 13:32:55 q+ 13:33:31 https://github.com/w3c/process/issues/1085 13:33:48 kaz: this is a common problem around the Registry Track in general. right? 13:33:50 ek: right 13:34:00 q? 13:34:05 ... so I've created an Issur for the Process document 13:34:09 kaz: ok 13:34:10 q- 13:34:14 (merged) 13:34:37 ek: you can ask PLH for opinions based on the above Process Issue 13:34:53 s/ek: you can ask PLH for opinions based on the above Process Issue// 13:35:01 i/ok/ek: you can ask PLH for opinions based on the above Process Issue/ 13:35:09 present+ Daniel_Peintner 13:35:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:35:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:35:48 subtopic: PR 27 13:36:06 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/27 Registry PR 27 - Adapt documenting to remove s from bindings 13:36:33 ek: converted "Bindings Registry" to "Binding Registry" based on the discussion yesterday 13:37:01 ... after merging this PR, we should change the repository name also 13:37:05 kaz: will do 13:39:12 ... done 13:39:15 ek: tx! 13:40:24 subtopic: PR 30 13:40:43 q+ 13:40:48 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/pull/30 Registry PR 30 - Second intro section refactoring 13:41:10 q+ 13:41:23 q+ 13:41:24 dp: we can look into the CSS to fix the setting 13:41:43 ek: can anybody do that??? 13:41:53 ack c 13:42:17 ack dape 13:42:21 dp: it's a problem with not only this document but also any kind of documents 13:42:23 ek: right 13:42:41 jr: work around could be changing the CSS setting... 13:42:50 ... but maybe a bug with ReSpec? 13:43:32 ek: the question here is the CSS setting for "rfc2119-assertion"... 13:43:55 q? 13:43:57 q+ 13:43:58 ack j 13:44:11 dp: there is a workaround by Mozilla above 13:44:19 s/ above// 13:44:30 -> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color_value/light-dark light-dark setting 13:44:44 qq? 13:45:07 s/qq?// 13:45:15 kaz: so what should be the next step 13:45:19 s/step/step?/ 13:45:26 ... should talk with the ReSpec Team? 13:45:58 q+ 13:46:02 ack k 13:46:08 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot-td 13:47:17 ek: Daniel will create an Issue on the wot-binding-registry repo first 13:47:28 ... and then if needed, we can ask the ReSpec Team for help 13:47:31 kaz: ok 13:47:37 ack j 13:47:53 jr: maybe we could open an Issue on the ReSpec repo as well... 13:48:31 kaz: ok 13:48:50 ... so Daniel has created an issue (31) on wot-binding-registry 13:49:10 ... and Jan can create another issue on the ReSpec repo referring to Daniel's issue above 13:49:45 i|ok|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-registry/issues/31 Registry Issue 31 - Assertion Highighting for dark and light mode 13:49:49 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:49:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:49:58 jr: ok 13:50:18 ek: (goes through the other points within PR 30) 13:50:53 ... (e.g., the "Ownership" section) 13:51:50 q+ 13:52:36 q- 13:53:06 kaz: note that it would be nicer to use GitHub Issue mechanism rather than email communication via the public list and/or to the Chairs 13:53:10 ek: right 13:53:26 ... (tries to merge the PR) 13:54:25 ... (but some conflicts there...) 13:54:31 ... (fixed, and merged) 13:55:15 topic: Thing Description - revisited 13:55:19 subtopic: PR 2123 13:55:35 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2123 TD PR 2123 - Removing HTTP Binding and Adjusting Defaulting Mechanism for all Bindings 13:56:47 ek: (goes through the changes) 13:56:50 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2123/files changes 13:57:34 ek: the actual changes are within index.template.html 13:58:03 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2123/files#diff-20c762491016637ceac07ca2c6c28cc19333d98b482bac4d863ac95cf88e9b6b diff around index.template.html 13:59:49 ek: (shows section 5.4) 14:00:01 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2123.html#sec-default-values 5.4 Default Value Definitions 14:01:27 q+ 14:01:38 ca: changes look good 14:01:46 ... but what about the prefix? 14:02:51 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2052 TD Issue 2052 - Default Mechanisms for Bindings Vocabularies 14:03:11 ek: (explains the mechanism using the Thing Description Playground as well) 14:04:57 ... need to add a name space URL for HTTP in RDF, etc. 14:05:21 s/etc./etc., for extensions/ 14:07:06 ... all the examples which use "htv:" prefix should have the context setting correctly 14:07:11 s/context/@context/ 14:07:37 ... will apply the changes as well 14:08:19 q+ 14:09:04 ack c 14:09:09 kaz: if any more questions, let's create an additional Issue about that 14:09:14 ... and discuss it next week 14:09:16 ek: ok 14:09:21 ... will do 14:09:23 q- 14:09:31 topic: TF Resolution for publication 14:10:19 kaz: it's already 10 mins past the hour 14:10:32 ... also some of the key attendees have left 14:10:48 ... so if we really need to make a resolution, let's do that via email 14:10:51 ek: ok 14:10:53 ... will do 14:11:05 [adjourned] 14:11:10 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:11:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:11:59 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 14:12:44 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 14:59:14 zkis has joined #wot-td 15:12:54 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot-td 15:19:01 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 16:29:18 Zakim has left #wot-td 18:56:23 kaz has joined #wot-td 19:09:00 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 19:24:26 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 19:51:42 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 20:07:08 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 20:52:34 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 21:08:04 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 21:38:58 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 21:53:43 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 22:09:14 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 22:20:47 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 22:36:11 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 22:47:32 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td