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13:53:45 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:53:54 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/3d8e05fe-09ac-4406-91ee-50e6ad47529d/20250828T150000/
13:53:54 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:53:54 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:53:54 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:53:56 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:53:58 <agendabot> agenda+ Review RADAR Review
13:54:00 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
13:54:03 <agendabot> agenda+ RDF and RFC9839
13:54:05 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:54:24 <addison> agenda+ Number, currency, and unit formatting
13:54:38 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:54:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-i18n-minutes.html addison
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14:00:50 <addison> present+ Addison, Fuqiao, Joel Sahleen
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14:04:43 <addison> present+ Atsushi, JcK, Richard
14:05:22 <atsushi> scribe+
14:05:47 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:05:47 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:05:49 <addison> agenda?
14:06:08 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:06:08 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:06:18 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
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14:06:35 <addison> #183
14:06:35 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/183 -> Action 183  send JavaScript Intl article to wide review (on xfq) due 2025-08-28
14:06:41 <r12a> present+
14:06:45 <addison> close #183
14:06:47 <gb> Closed -> issue #183 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/183
14:06:48 <atsushi> xfq: did for #183
14:06:48 <addison> #171
14:06:49 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/171 -> Action 171 revise local-font-access to exclude localhost and talk more about opt-in model (on ZainabAq) due 2025-05-22
14:06:59 <addison> #136
14:07:00 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/136 -> Issue 136 follow up on XML errata (by aphillips) [task]
14:07:15 <addison> #135
14:07:15 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/135 -> Action 135  follow up on XR issue 1393 about locale in session (on aphillips) due 2024-10-17
14:07:21 <addison> #127
14:07:22 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/127 -> Action 127  make a list of shared topics of interest between TG2 and W3C-I18N (on aphillips) due 2024-09-30
14:07:26 <addison> #33
14:07:27 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 -> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)
14:07:48 <addison> #7
14:07:49 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 -> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
14:07:49 <atsushi> addison: nothing super interesting to report
14:08:02 <addison> #4
14:08:02 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 -> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips) due 27 Jul 2023
14:08:16 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:08:16 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:08:27 <atsushi> addison: we have new member
14:09:09 <atsushi> Joel: located in Utah, previously worked at Spotify, and did internationalization program at another company
14:09:51 <atsushi> ... excited to be a part of team, and strongly interested in i18n education program, such as introducly documents
14:10:08 <atsushi> addison: if any of us can help you, let us know
14:10:22 <atsushi> ... for this year, Unicode event conflicts with our TPAC
14:11:25 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:11:25 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Review RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:11:35 <addison> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1
14:11:44 <atsushi> addison: no new incoming
14:12:06 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:12:06 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:15 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
14:12:31 <addison> agenda?
14:12:50 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:12:50 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- RDF and RFC9839 -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:54 <addison> #2023
14:12:55 <gb> Issue 2023 not found
14:13:04 <addison> i18n-activity#2023
14:13:04 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/2023 -> Issue 2023 Consider referencing RFC 9839 to restrict problematic Unicode characters in RDF 1.2 literals and IRIs (by w3cbot) [pending] [tracker]
14:13:14 <atsushi> addison: above is our link
14:13:21 <addison>  w3c/rdf-star-wg#177
14:13:21 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/issues/177 -> Issue 177 Consider referencing RFC 9839 to restrict problematic Unicode characters in RDF 1.2 literals and IRIs (by domel) [i18n-tracker]
14:14:10 <atsushi> addison: while ago, we reviewed their spec and RFC, and some pointed problematic character to RFC
14:18:29 <atsushi> addison: if you can list kinds of issue points, even not complete, via charmod or UTR or else, would help to offer guidelines
14:20:39 <atsushi> ... even if we don't need some references or else, these could be important for various colleagues including user, and similar to charmod or else
14:21:10 <atsushi> ... trully completed checklist is quite hard to build
14:22:02 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
14:22:02 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Number, currency, and unit formatting -- taken up [from addison]
14:22:13 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/693
14:22:13 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/693 -> Pull Request 693 Initial draft on number, currency, and unit formatting (by xfq)
14:22:29 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/blob/xfq/issue-410/questions/qa-number-format.en.md
14:22:44 <atsushi> xfq: drafted article for number or currency or else
14:22:52 <atsushi> ... got some comments from r12a or addison
14:23:38 <addison> "can lead misunderstanding" -> "can lead to misunderstanding"
14:24:16 <atsushi> JcK: will check coming week(s)
14:24:51 <atsushi> Joel: will check tomorrow, esp. on locale setting, one thing is attribute to be clearly stated
14:26:24 <atsushi> addison: article is for using from JavaScript or dynamic script, but still work for static page or articles
14:26:53 <atsushi> ... also I have working on message format similar to this area over recent several years
14:27:27 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/693#discussion_r2163965722
14:28:22 <atsushi> xfq: wrote similar article, in similar format but in different text
14:28:37 <atsushi> ... w3c article is little bit longer
14:29:00 <atsushi> addison: will comve back enxt week or so
14:29:15 <addison> Topic: Orthography term
14:29:22 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/87
14:29:23 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-glossary/issues/87 -> Issue 87 Orthography (by xfq) [enhancement] [Agenda+]
14:29:44 <atsushi> addison: xqf questioned one, and raised to agenda on this
14:30:28 <atsushi> ... two thing, whether to add this word into glossary, another is a11y colleagues are still strugguing on presentation for text string
14:30:54 <atsushi> ... great guideline for western languages, but not for other languages or scripts
14:31:56 <atsushi> addison: not conivinced with current text inserted
14:32:28 <atsushi> ... not to propose to solve here, but bunch of suggestions on operation
14:33:48 <r12a> q+
14:33:50 <atsushi> xfq: some comments came from JL-TF for a11y parts
14:33:54 <addison> ack next
14:34:07 <xfq> s/xqf/xfq/
14:34:42 <atsushi> r12a: could be difficult to limit usage of word in glossary
14:36:10 <atsushi> addison: rephase for more suitable one?
14:36:41 <atsushi> .. and you can find more area to match with these materials
14:39:19 <atsushi> r12a: will they have official k-pop place?
14:39:55 <atsushi> ... they decided to be under a umplifier or else
14:41:42 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/4263
14:41:43 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/4263 -> Issue 4263 Internationalisation updates (normative) (by alastc) [Normative] [i18n-tracker] [i18n]
14:42:00 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1993
14:42:01 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1993 -> Issue 1993 Internationalisation updates (normative) (by w3cbot) [tracker] [s:wcag] [t:typ_misc] [wg:ag] [Agenda+]
14:44:02 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues/310
14:44:03 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/coga/issues/310 -> Issue 310 Review language specific issues for v2.0 of Content Usable  (by rainbreaw) [i18n-needs-resolution] [review for next version]
14:44:11 <atsushi> [chat around COGA, WCAC)
14:44:30 <xfq> s/WCAC/WCAG/
14:46:17 <r12a> public-global-inclusion@w3.org
14:46:37 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-global-inclusion-minutes.html
14:46:48 <atsushi> xfq: see almost no activity in WCAG group, but related i11yissue event was wholder before aha\pah
14:47:16 <xfq> s/activity in WCAG group/activity in COGA group
14:48:00 <xfq> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeGEsD1JVf7L9bFW3_e7YTnqtmUnpTldJhD6N16ElAU/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.j7rzaqx6ki33
14:48:04 <atsushi> addison: any i18n people will commit ,right?
14:49:10 <r12a> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-global-inclusion/
14:50:48 <atsushi> [chat around a11y guideline document]
14:51:15 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/community/global-inclusion/
14:52:47 <addison> action: addison: reply to wcag issue with comment about doing a higher level of interaction and pre-review
14:52:55 <gb> Created -> action #184 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/184
14:53:07 <addison> agenda?
14:53:18 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
14:53:18 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:53:34 <atsushi> [end]
14:53:52 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/28-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:54:18 <addison> zakim, bye
14:54:19 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Fuqiao, Joel, Sahleen, Atsushi, JcK, Richard, r12a
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