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18:26:54 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
18:27:22 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge (A11yEdge) Community Group Teleconference
18:27:38 <janina> Chair: Janina
18:27:43 <janina> Date: 27 Aug 2025
18:31:51 <janina> present+
18:31:55 <janina> scribe+
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18:41:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:41:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Jason
18:41:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Chris
18:41:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
18:41:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Document edits
18:41:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Abstract revision - WCAG 7-10
18:42:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Post-Source and other prefixes-- 7-10m Janina likely says no
18:42:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ WAI Accessibility Overview [WCAG, ATAG, ]
18:42:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Info Architecture Reachout 5-7m
18:42:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ 2022 TPAC Follow-ups 10m
18:42:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Chris Configuration
18:42:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
18:42:22 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Document edits -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
18:43:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Our respec review must be done this Sunday
18:43:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> . We can still do minor edits after that point
18:44:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> . major changes, section changes, etc, we must do this week
18:44:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:44:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:45:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I think we can have until end week for bigger changes
18:45:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> correct?
18:46:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:46:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:46:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> .. ok?
18:46:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:46:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:46:59 <Lionel_Wolberger>  ok?
18:47:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:47:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:50:42 <janina> janina: We say "show", but we don't. Rather we conclude, so I want to s/show/conclude/
18:51:03 <janina> janina: Also drop the last sentence, it doesn't make sense to me any longer
18:54:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We can still rewrite the abstract sentences and paragraphs following the respec tune up
18:54:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
18:54:13 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Abstract revision - WCAG 7-10 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
18:54:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Minuted above
18:54:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
18:54:34 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
18:54:35 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:54:35 <Zakim> 3. Post-Source and other prefixes-- 7-10m Janina likely says no [from Lionel_Wolberger]
18:54:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
18:54:37 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Post-Source and other prefixes-- 7-10m Janina likely says no -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
18:55:04 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Sharing work on what we can do ...
18:55:32 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Downloaded all our minutes, in order to add to the ML
18:55:44 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Also TPAC transcript, cleaned up
18:56:32 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Also additional to support my AI effort to summarize and build promotional material
18:56:57 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: AI came up with pre-source, in-source, post-source
18:57:12 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Other very interesting results
18:57:46 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Also referenced the help we got from IA CG
18:59:35 <janina> [discussion]
19:05:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Comfortable with this direction
19:05:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
19:05:14 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- WAI Accessibility Overview -- taken up [from WCAG, ATAG, ]
19:09:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We looked at https://www.w3.org/WAI/fundamentals/components/
19:11:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: This document, the way it'swritten, illustrates that accessibility can be broken at any stage of a multi-step process
19:12:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it implies that having another chance to correct things, e.g., post source, is a good thing
19:14:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: I will look for a spot to refer to ATAG, https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/atag/
19:15:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
19:15:04 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Info Architecture Reachout 5-7m -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
19:18:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We propose to coordinate the release the report with IACG
19:18:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We can get a quote from IACG as part of the announcement
19:18:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we'll want other quotes as well
19:18:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:18:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:19:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Note that the AirBNB lead is now in charge of USA Federal digital experiences
19:20:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
19:20:09 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- 2022 TPAC Follow-ups 10m -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
19:31:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Proposed responding to each TPAC attendee from 2022
19:33:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I read a proposed follow-up to one attendee, Judy Brewer
19:33:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: The approach sounds reasonable, and also reflects the care and effort that has gone into the entire process
19:33:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: I would 'dry it down' a bit more. Here's a hit list, here's what we hit.
19:34:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... what do you think we should do next, in order to support the type of discussion that you indicated
19:36:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... our plan is to do A or B in future, what do you think
19:37:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Notify pre-release or post-release?
19:37:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Post-release
19:37:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Post-release
19:38:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
19:38:06 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Chris Configuration -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
19:45:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We reviewed how to join a community group
19:47:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: As an aside, this reminded me of pre-biotics, biotics, and post-biotics
19:47:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: and macrobiotic
19:54:09 <janina> zakim, end meeting
19:54:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Jason, Chris
19:54:11 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:54:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/27-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
19:54:19 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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19:55:30 <janina> rrsagent, bye
19:55:30 <RRSAgent> I see no action items