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14:30:40 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:30:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:30:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html kaz
14:30:53 <kaz> meeting: Voice Interaction
14:31:08 <kaz> present+ kaz, gerard
14:31:14 <kaz> present+ debbie
14:31:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:31:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html kaz
14:31:35 <kaz> chair: debbie
14:32:12 <ddahl> chair: debbie
14:32:22 <ddahl> meeting: Voice Interaction
14:32:28 <ddahl> scribe: ddahl
14:32:38 <ddahl> topic: workshop
14:34:19 <ddahl> kaz: several people have agreed to join the PC
14:34:40 <ddahl> ...would like to send out the invidual reminders
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14:35:37 <ddahl> rrsagent, format minutes
14:35:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl
14:35:51 <ddahl> rrsagent, make logs public
14:35:52 <kaz> s/several people/several people including Michael Koster and Song Xu/
14:36:23 <kaz> s/and Song Xu/, Song Xu and Brian Kardell/
14:36:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:36:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html kaz
14:36:59 <ddahl> kaz: following up with several other people
14:37:12 <ddahl> dirk: how many do we want?
14:37:17 <ddahl> kaz: about 10
14:37:42 <ddahl> debbie: gerard
14:37:47 <ddahl> gerard: yes
14:37:48 <kaz> s/people/people, e.g., Kim Pathc, Phil Archer, Markku Hakkinen and Bevcorwin. Possibly Janina Sajka as well./
14:38:27 <ddahl> debbie: when should we meet?
14:38:44 <ddahl> kaz: we can start initial discussion
14:38:50 <kaz> s/Pathc/Patch/
14:38:58 <ddahl> ...send reminders in parallel
14:39:15 <ddahl> debbie: next week?
14:39:42 <ddahl> kaz: will create a dedicated mailing list and set up a zoom
14:40:34 <ddahl> kaz: we can use this slot in two weeks
14:41:11 <ddahl> debbie: when can we send out call for participation?
14:41:39 <ddahl> kaz: almost done and we can send to the first confirmed PC members
14:42:08 <ddahl> ...and then confirm with the rest of the PC
14:42:37 <ddahl> kaz: no cost since this is a remote virtual workshop
14:42:37 <dirk> +++++++++********************---------------------
14:43:38 <ddahl> debbie: agenda for PC meeting
14:43:52 <ddahl> ....review call for participation
14:44:01 <ddahl> ...figure out the dates
14:44:14 <ddahl> kaz: basic structure
14:44:21 <ddahl> dirk: way of submission
14:44:32 <ddahl> debbie: format of submission
14:44:56 <ddahl> debbie: how many sessions
14:45:24 <ddahl> dirk: how many sessions depends on how many submissions
14:46:38 <ddahl> debbie: typically about 25 submissions in in-person workshop
14:47:09 <ddahl> kaz: for Smart Cities, maybe 20 or so was the total number
14:48:11 <ddahl> kaz: sessions should have the same topics
14:48:30 <ddahl> ...the final session should have the final summarization
14:51:49 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/smartcities-workshop/talks.html example of the list of talks from the smart cities workshop
14:52:10 <ddahl> dirk: looks like Smart Cities talks were about 6 minutes
14:52:37 <ddahl> kaz: should ask about time zone in CfP
14:53:17 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/smartcities-workshop/agenda.html agenda page of the smart cities workshop
14:54:27 <ddahl> kaz: four topics for each session in Smart Cities
14:55:21 <ddahl> ...marketing communications head says that Shutterstock contract is expiring
14:56:47 <ddahl> ... might not be able to use Shutterstock graphics
14:57:09 <ddahl> topic: draft CfP
14:57:16 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/ draft cfp
14:59:02 <ddahl> debbie: should we consider cutting down on the topics?
15:01:50 <ddahl> kaz: group topics into several categories
15:03:39 <ddahl> dirk: for horizontal categories, should include accessibility and usability, discovery and trust may not be in scope
15:04:59 <ddahl> dirk: move that topic to "needs of users and developers"
15:07:36 <ddahl> kaz: it might be easier to understand if we categorize different viewpoints
15:10:37 <ddahl> debbie: should not talk about ASR or state transitions, those are too broad
15:14:36 <ddahl> we agree to move "accessibility and usability" to the section on "needs of the users", and leave in "Horizontal platform considerations"
15:15:56 <ddahl> kaz: we should move internationalization to user needs
15:16:16 <kaz> s/to u/as well to u/
15:16:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:16:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html kaz
15:16:49 <ddahl> debbie: PC should work on consolidating topics so they aren't too broad
15:18:11 <ddahl> debbie: how much do we want to talk about multimodal since the topic is "Voice Agents"?
15:19:02 <ddahl> kaz: we should remove the line about "integrating multiple interchangeable modalities'
15:19:52 <ddahl> debbie: another topic for the PC is the overall schedule
15:20:42 <ddahl> ...CfP, deadline for submissions, announcement of agenda, workshop, etc.
15:21:13 <ddahl> kaz: can use "important dates" from smart cities
15:22:49 <ddahl> kaz: we should have papers and videos ahead of time
15:23:09 <ddahl> debbie: will there be a recording?
15:24:12 <ddahl> kaz: for Smart Cities we hired a professional transcriber, but we didn't really use it
15:24:32 <ddahl> debbie: we could use the Zoom automatic transcript
15:24:48 <ddahl> kaz: we can also use the irc minutes
15:25:59 <ddahl> debbie: we need an agenda for the PC meeting
15:26:20 <ddahl> ...I could do that
15:27:11 <ddahl> debbie: debbie, dirk and kaz will be co-chairs
15:28:26 <ddahl> debbie: who will edit draft CfP?
15:28:31 <ddahl> kaz: will do that
15:28:46 <ddahl> action: kaz to update draft CfP
15:29:08 <ddahl> action: debbie to create a PC meeting agenda
15:30:14 <ddahl> debbie: everyone on PC will have a W3C account and will be able to join this call
15:30:43 <ddahl> action: kaz to create a mailing list and database
15:30:55 <ddahl> we already have a GitHub repository.
15:31:15 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop smartagents-workshop GitHub repo
15:31:33 <ddahl> action: kaz to remind people who were invited to the PC to respond
15:32:09 <ddahl> rrsagent, format minutes
15:32:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl
15:33:14 <kaz> s/+++++++++********************---------------------/+++++++++********************--------------------- <= input from Dirk's cat :)/
15:33:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:33:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html kaz
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18:57:17 <ddahl> s/<dirk> +++++++++********************--------------------- <= input from Dirk's cat :)/
19:12:19 <ddahl> rrsagent, format minutes
19:12:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl
19:17:55 <ddahl> present: debbie, kaz, dirk, gerard
19:18:03 <ddahl> rrsagent, format minutes
19:18:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/21-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl
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