13:09:47 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 13:09:52 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-irc 13:09:53 meeting: WoT Profile 13:10:30 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Ben_Francis, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Josh_Thomas, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:12:58 rrsagent, make log public 13:13:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:13:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:13:29 chair: Sebastian 13:13:37 regrets+ David 13:16:10 dape has joined #wot-pf 13:16:21 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_20.8.2025 13:17:23 dape: scribe 13:17:30 mjk has joined #wot-pf 13:17:50 TOPIC: Logistics 13:17:57 q+ 13:18:26 s/TOPIC: Logistics/TOPIC: Previous Minutes 13:18:28 benfrancis has joined #wot-pf 13:18:44 * WoT Plugfest: https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:18:55 s/*/->/ 13:19:03 -> May 21 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:19:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:19:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:19:59 q? 13:20:04 q- 13:20:08 13:20:13 q+ 13:20:14 meeting: WoT Plugfest 13:20:15 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:20:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:20:46 s/dape: scribe/scribenick: dape/ 13:20:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:20:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:20:55 SK: Any comments? 13:21:24 JT: Do we need to go over the sponsor topic? 13:21:31 s|-> WoT Plugfest: https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html|| 13:21:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:21:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:21:43 q+ 13:21:54 SK: Have this as a separate agenda topic 13:22:19 Kaz: BTW, at that time sponsor was about meeting room 13:22:22 ... the host 13:22:43 SK: OK 13:22:50 ... minutes are approved 13:23:00 TOPIC: Logistics 13:23:08 SUBTOPIC: PlugFest calls 13:23:17 present- Ben_Francis 13:23:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:23:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:23:27 SK: Today we had conflict with profile 13:23:27 ... we should avoid that situation 13:23:45 ... we can create next call next week 13:23:53 ... I am not available next week 13:24:03 MK: Alternating hosting is fine 13:24:31 ... should agree on alternating weeks 13:24:56 q? 13:25:09 ack jthomas 13:25:43 SK: 2 weeks from now is Profile call 13:25:49 .... September 3 13:26:02 ... we should start PF call next week bi-weekly 13:26:11 q- 13:27:21 ... regular PF call on September 10 13:27:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:29:19 MK: I will chair next PF call (since Sebastian is not available) 13:29:25 SK: Will check with Ben 13:29:38 SUBTOPIC: Planning webpage 13:29:45 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_TPAC_2025_planning#Proposed_topics_for_PlugFests 13:30:27 SK: We should start collecting participants and topics 13:31:16 ... we also need to discuss "who" we want to invite 13:31:28 ... also guests from the community group 13:31:53 ... it is good to have non-WG or non-IG members 13:32:08 ... should we open the PlugFest for others? 13:32:14 +1 to open to CG participants 13:32:21 +1 13:33:06 q+ 13:33:11 ... can/should reach out to Japanese people since we are in Kobe 13:33:25 Kaz: PF is part of breakout session 13:33:42 ... having community people is nice 13:34:04 ... we have a list on bottom of wiki page already 13:34:15 ... talk with Echonet this Friday 13:34:32 SK: Do we need a resolution to open PF? 13:34:35 Kaz: Yes 13:34:49 ... McCool wanted to invitde NGSI-LD people as well 13:35:04 ... we just need to give the list of invites people to event team 13:35:14 ... we need approval beforehand 13:35:18 s/McCool/McCool also/ 13:37:00 proposal: group agrees to invite guests from related SDOs and WoT communities. 13:38:07 resolution: group agrees to invite guests to the WoT PlugFest from other related SDOs and WoT communities. 13:38:31 q+ 13:39:51 Kaz: On GitHub we have a dedicated page as well, see https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/plugfest/2025-tpac-kobe 13:39:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:40:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:40:07 MK: Keep registration on wiki and move content to GH 13:41:16 13:41:32 q? 13:41:33 s/content/some content around the proposed topics/ 13:41:35 ack k 13:41:38 ack e 13:41:42 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:41:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:41:49 q+ 13:41:49 SUBTOPIC: Sponsor 13:41:55 q+ 13:42:12 EK: Remote and in person event ? 13:42:23 SK: 2 kinds of events 13:42:29 s/and in person/or in-person/ 13:42:29 .... regular PlugFest 13:42:40 ... and there is a Demo session 13:43:13 ... I would be open that remote participants can be part of both events 13:43:20 ... not sure if feasible 13:43:40 EK: Person can share screen in case of remote participants 13:43:52 SK: We need to clarify this 13:44:14 EK: Do they need TPAC registration for just the PlugFest? 13:44:37 Kaz: PlugFest and Breakout are both part of the TPAC event 13:44:44 ... in-person they need to pay 13:45:15 ... for remote participations we can discuss with W3C team 13:45:41 s/W3C team/the W3C Events Team/ 13:45:56 s/SUBTOPIC: Sponsor/SUBTOPIC: Remote participation 13:46:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:46:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html dape 13:46:53 Kaz: Rules have changed, and remote participants have to pay (officially) 13:47:14 SK: I am not very happy about that 13:48:15 Kaz: I prefer another mechanism as well 13:48:31 SUBTOPIC: Sponsor 13:48:40 JT: We offered sponsorship 13:48:50 ... I have to clarify details 13:49:12 s/I prefer another mechanism as well/another mechanism like the WoT Week would be nicer for inviting external experts.../ 13:49:12 ... and what are our responsibilities 13:49:28 SK: Usually we met a couple of days before TPAC 13:49:43 ... in another venue/location 13:50:15 ... this year we can be at TPAC beginning on Sunday 13:50:31 ... Monday to Wednesday there is a room available 13:50:36 ... Sunday also 13:51:11 SK: I think we can remove the agenda topic this time 13:51:18 SUBTOPIC: Dates 13:51:31 SK: We start on Sunday Nov 9 13:51:36 q+ 13:51:40 ack e 13:51:41 ... Can we keep hardware in the room? 13:51:59 Kaz: I would assume the PF room would be locked 13:52:03 ... will check with event team 13:52:31 ... basic plan for Wednesday 13:52:38 .... first slot for PF/Demo session 13:53:14 .... second slot for removing our hardware ... and give the space to others 13:53:29 s/..../.../g 13:53:33 SK: I created issue for it 13:53:56 https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/7 13:53:57 s/second slot/during the break time and the second slot/ 13:54:21 s|https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/7|-> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/7 WoT Plugfest breakout proposal| 13:54:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:54:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:55:15 SK: I propose to remove the "WIP" label to get an official request 13:55:27 ... no concerns, label removed 13:55:50 SK: 6 applications so far 13:56:10 ... is there an overview on timeslots? 13:56:16 Kaz: I don't think so 13:56:21 https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/wiki/Breakout%E2%80%90time%E2%80%90slots 13:56:34 Kaz: Maybe the above link might help 13:56:46 SK: Only 1 hour slots 13:56:52 s/I don't think so/Let me see.../ 13:56:58 ... not much 13:57:02 q+ 13:57:09 q- later 13:57:36 EK: If we need to bring hardware... unmounting everything is annoying 13:57:42 ... we should aks for 2 hours 13:58:00 Kaz: No worry. Talked with event team ... 13:58:16 ... we have a dedicated room 13:58:44 EK: 8.30 is early 13:59:01 SK: For Europeans it is a horrible time 13:59:49 Kaz: I can check with event team ... to keep the room for the entire day 14:00:07 ... we need to decide whether the first slot works 14:01:01 s/I can check with event team ... to keep the room for the entire day/I can check with the Events Team if needed, but if we want to use the last session for European participants, that would mean we'd keep the room for the whole Wednesday.../ 14:01:22 EK: Kaz proposal would be ideal 14:02:05 SK: I would prefer this as well 14:02:08 Kaz: will try to negotiate 14:02:27 s/Kaz proposal/The last slot/ 14:02:51 EK: A compromise could be that we occupy space in a corner only 14:02:58 ... people can hold breakout anyway 14:03:05 s/works/works or not/ 14:03:36 s/will try to negotiate/will try to negotiate if the group really would like to hold our session at the last slot./ 14:05:27 I could hear the end and I am ofc fine with booking the whole day if possible 14:06:36 proposal: the WoT WG would like to have the breakout room for the PlugFest demonstration the whole day. If this is not possible then the room should be reserved for the morning time. 14:09:01 Kaz: Whole day breakout for WoT only might be not acceptable 14:09:18 ... suggest to use the last slot 14:10:07 ... and ask event team what to do best with the hardware 14:11:51 [adjourned] 14:12:22 s/hardware/hardware. Probably we need further discussion to clarify our actual need.../ 14:12:24 dape has joined #wot-pf 14:12:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:12:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 16:12:28 Zakim has left #wot-pf 16:57:49 kaz has joined #wot-pf