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13:52:04 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:52:11 <janina> Meeting: WAI-Adapt Teleconference
13:52:19 <janina> Chair: Lionel_Wolberger
13:52:24 <janina> Date: 19 Aug 2025
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14:04:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:04:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:06:19 <matatk> topic: Announcing special APA WG call tomorrow on Accessibility Compatibility Data
14:06:20 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/95b9836e-a993-413a-b073-a0913edfa4f8/20250820T100000/
14:06:58 <matatk> https://lolaslab.co/blog/2025/accessibility-compat-data/
14:10:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I agree with Matt, anyone interested in baseline should attend
14:12:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: another related link, Adrian's blog post https://adrianroselli.com/2023/12/baseline-does-not-really-cover-baseline-support.html
14:12:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Symbols
14:13:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:13:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:13:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
14:13:24 <Zakim> Present: Abhinav, Russell, janina, Annalu, matatk, Lionel_Wolberger
14:13:25 <matatk> Explainer updates: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/323
14:13:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Annalu, Russell, Abhinav, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, Roy_Ruoxi, gb, jcraig, hadleybeeman
14:13:26 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/323 -> Pull Request 323 Symbols explainer post-workshop (by matatk)
14:16:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Agreed (in https://www.w3.org/2025/08/05-adapt-minutes.html) to combine into this explainer both the registry and the method
14:18:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: This is a critical change for our 'shop front'
14:18:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... can we also do our home page?
14:19:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: No, as I need to first edit the APA home page, then do the Adapt Task Force
14:19:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... let's focus on being ready for TPAC
14:20:35 <Russell> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19AfygtoQ11uRFu1kBZWuwobKVa8N2GuZzvzDhOVjIa4/edit?gid=0#gid=0
14:20:46 <matatk> ^ workshop spreadsheet
14:21:05 <matatk> Also, symbols-related issues: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3ASymbols
14:23:06 <matatk> Tool links from Russell: https://icomoon.io/ ; https://icomoon.app/
14:23:37 <matatk> ... and https://glyphsapp.com/
14:25:17 <matatk> ... also https://fontforge.org/ - but it doesn't support color-based SVG fonts.
14:25:30 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:25:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html matatk
14:26:37 <matatk> Russell: FontForge can't do what we want. Glyphs mostly can - though it's commercial software. Icomoon is expected to be completely supporting color SVG glyphs, but it doesn't yet.
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14:26:44 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:26:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html matatk
14:28:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Glyphs can likely do what we need, but needs a license
14:29:36 <matatk> s/Glyphs can likely/Glyphs can maybe/
14:31:26 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:31:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html matatk
14:31:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Is the mini2 license enough? Here is the compare page, https://glyphsapp.com/buy
14:37:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> Russell: I will do a review of existing software and find a viable candidate
14:39:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> Annalu: I will have use cases this week as well.
14:40:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Destinations
14:40:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Update from Lisa. The answer, is help only.
14:41:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Help and contact?
14:44:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Question, would linksets support not repeating the content on every page?\
14:44:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/?\/?
14:50:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We discussed using <link rel="linkset"> in the <head> to point to a centralized JSON linkset.
14:50:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... This allows us to declare all Well Known Destinations from a single location.
14:50:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... The linkset can include rel values like adapt-symbols, adapt-preferences, etc.
14:51:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Phil Archer recommended linksets, and they align well with our technical goals.
14:51:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... To bridge the gap until user agents support linksets, we can use a simple JavaScript polyfill.
14:51:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... The polyfill could fetch the linkset, parses it, and exposes destinations for use by scripts or UAs.
14:51:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... This avoids repeating <link> tags on every page and supports modular deployment.
14:52:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we note that the IETF WKU (well known URLs) cannot support this use case
14:53:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: This approach is simple to implement
14:57:09 <matatk> Talking about proposed destinations - e.g. this one that isn't: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/311
14:57:09 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/311 -> Issue 311 related
14:58:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Decided, we will label 'accepted destination' for destinations that we accept
14:58:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:58:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:58:48 <matatk> I made a label for this: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/labels
15:00:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: I would like to talk about how this concept can be used in Agentic contexts
15:00:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... GenAI agents could use it to navigate to the login page
15:00:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Let's discuss next time
15:00:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Agentic is an AI type class
15:01:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
15:01:06 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Abhinav, Russell, janina, Annalu, matatk, Lionel_Wolberger
15:01:09 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:01:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/19-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
15:01:16 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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