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13:03:53 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2
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13:04:52 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:04:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:04:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:05:04 <kaz> chair: Ege, Koster
13:05:20 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:05:56 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#August_6%2C_7%2C_2025
13:06:14 <EgeKorka_> scribenick: EgeKorkan
13:06:19 <EgeKorka_> scribenick: EgeKorka_
13:06:41 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
13:06:56 <EgeKorka_> topic: Agenda Review
13:07:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minute
13:07:05 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:07:08 <kaz> s/rrsagent, draft minute//
13:07:10 <EgeKorka_> ek: PRs, TD Optional Content Type and Charter
13:07:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:07:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
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13:07:46 <kaz> topic: Registry
13:07:54 <EgeKorka_> topic: TD
13:08:01 <kaz> s/topic: Registry//
13:08:07 <EgeKorka_> ek: I have merged PR 2118
13:08:26 <kaz> i|I have|subtopic: PR 2118|
13:08:33 <EgeKorka_> ... the " was the problem
13:08:45 <kaz> i|I have|->https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118 PR 2118 - Binding Intro Reorganization|
13:08:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:08:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:09:00 <EgeKorka_> ... now the binding intro looks nice: https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#bindings
13:09:31 <EgeKorka_> ... some links and authors will be updated when going for FPWD
13:09:55 <EgeKorka_> ... with this the 4th box at https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2112 can be ticked
13:10:07 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 2112
13:10:21 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2112 Issue 2112 - TD 2.0 FPWD Goals
13:10:22 <dape> q+
13:10:28 <EgeKorka_> ... 4th point is done
13:10:30 <dape> ack dape
13:10:34 <EgeKorka_> subtopic: PR 2119
13:10:37 <dape> q+
13:10:41 <EgeKorka_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2119
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13:11:02 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2119|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2119 PR 2119 - Minor: remove duplication use & choose|
13:11:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:11:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:11:15 <EgeKorka_> ek: some big changes happened. not sure why
13:13:12 <EgeKorka_> ... only one word has changed
13:13:31 <kaz> s/changed/changed within index.template.html, though.../
13:13:34 <EgeKorka_> dp: maybe another PR in the meantime has happened
13:13:49 <kaz> q+
13:13:55 <dape> ack dape
13:14:36 <EgeKorka_> ek: it seems I forgot to push something
13:15:23 <kaz> q-
13:15:28 <EgeKorka_> kaz: in the end, we just needed to wait a bit
13:15:35 <EgeKorka_> ek: everyone is ok with this?
13:15:40 <EgeKorka_> q?
13:16:06 <EgeKorka_> subtopic: PR 2081
13:16:07 <EgeKorka_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2081
13:16:13 <kaz> s/a bit/a bit (until the rendered result for index.html is settled)/
13:16:22 <EgeKorka_> ek: this removes mandatory contenttype
13:16:41 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2081|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2081 PR 2081 - Make contentType optional in ExpectedResponse and AdditionalExpectedResponse classes
13:16:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:16:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:17:19 <EgeKorka_> ... there is no default value for content type in td-validation.ttl
13:17:40 <kaz> s/4th point/4th point around the Binding Mechanism/
13:17:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:17:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:19:08 <EgeKorka_> ek: there is a change that the response should contain the contenttype if there is a response
13:19:17 <dape> q+
13:20:04 <dape> ack dape
13:20:13 <EgeKorka_> the id should be changed since the assertion text is different now
13:20:33 <kaz> s/the id/dp: the id/
13:20:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:20:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:23:25 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#example-36 Ege shows Example 36
13:23:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:25:14 <dape> q+
13:26:10 <EgeKorka_> ek: I think the lines 1031 will need an assertion wrapper
13:26:16 <kaz> q+
13:26:42 <kaz> s/1031/1031 (If a content type is defined...)/
13:27:32 <EgeKorka_> dp: if there is an form level content type, that should imply that the response also has that content type
13:27:39 <EgeKorka_> ... unless it is overwritten
13:28:52 <dape> ack dape
13:29:32 <kaz> q-
13:30:25 <kaz> kaz: I'm OK with the PR itself, but talking about the Assertion Wrapper has reminded me that maybe we need to check the script with McCool/
13:30:37 <kaz> s|McCool/|McCool|
13:30:48 <kaz> ek: will check with him
13:30:52 <kaz> i/I'm/scribenick: kaz/
13:30:57 <kaz> scribenick: EgeKorka_
13:31:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:31:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:31:17 <EgeKorka_> ek: actually I agreed but we need to be able to express that there is no response
13:32:31 <kaz> i/actually/(some more discussion about the changes from PR 2081)
13:32:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:32:56 <kaz> i/agreed/agreed with Daniel/
13:32:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:33:52 <EgeKorka_> ek: the diff of the preview is looked at
13:35:25 <mjk> q?
13:37:51 <EgeKorka_> ek: any other comments?
13:38:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:38:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:40:12 <kaz> (none)
13:40:18 <kaz> topic: WG Charter Input
13:40:30 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2023/10/wot-wg-2023.html WoT WG Charter
13:40:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:40:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:40:56 <EgeKorka_> ek: I will create a new issue on the wot repo
13:42:19 <EgeKorka_> ... bindings registry as a new deliverable
13:42:58 <kaz> q+
13:43:23 <EgeKorka_> ek: should we list the notes in the beginning
13:48:55 <mjk> q+
13:50:18 <kaz> q-
13:50:29 <EgeKorka_> kaz: notes are informative so they can be published
13:51:34 <EgeKorka_> ek: ok I will separate them
13:51:40 <kaz> s/published/published. probably, we can simply mention within the Charter that we may publish several WG Notes to describe the detailed binding mechanism for each entry of the Bindings Registry./
13:51:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:51:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:53:28 <mjk> ack mjk
13:53:29 <EgeKorka_> mjk: can there be notes published without a WG if the WG does not exist anymore
13:54:00 <EgeKorka_> ek: in theory it is possible via CGs. A CG report can be the binding and the registry custodian applies the registry process defined to add the entry to the registry
13:54:44 <EgeKorka_> ek: any wish to add details to the documents?
13:56:00 <EgeKorka_> q?
13:57:21 <kaz> q+
13:57:29 <EgeKorka_> ek: (I wrote some inputs for now)
13:57:38 <EgeKorka_> kaz: I am ok with the input so far
13:58:41 <kaz> s/so far/so far, and would suggest we add a specific label to this Issue, e.g., "WG Charter 2025"
13:58:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:58:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/07-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
13:58:52 <EgeKorka_> ek: any other input?
13:58:52 <EgeKorka_> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1237
13:59:01 <EgeKorka_> ... then we can adjourn for today
13:59:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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