14:03:29 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 14:03:33 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-irc 14:03:37 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 1 14:03:43 rrsagent, make log public 14:03:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:03:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:04:03 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Josh_Thomas, Michael_Koster 14:04:10 chair: Ege, Koster 14:04:19 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 14:04:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:04:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:08:13 Topic: Schedule 14:09:11 q? 14:09:13 Topic: Review minutes from last week 14:09:25 ege: Any comments? 14:09:44 i|Any|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html July-30| 14:09:47 ... minutes are approved 14:09:56 Topic: Schedule 14:10:13 s/Schedule/Schedule review 14:10:47 ege: Any questions about the publication schedule? 14:11:58 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:12:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:12:56 i|Any|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2112 TD Issue 2112 - TD 2.0 FPWD Goals| 14:13:02 MIzushima has joined #wot-td 14:13:14 Topic: Issue # 2112, TD FPWD goals review 14:13:19 janro has joined #wot-td 14:13:22 present+ Jan_Romann, Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:13:34 s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2112 TD Issue 2112 - TD 2.0 FPWD Goals|| 14:13:52 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2112 TD Issue 2112 - TD 2.0 FPWD Goals 14:14:00 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:14:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:14:08 ege: (reviews the features checklist) 14:14:26 ... Is there anyone who wants to work on these items? 14:14:33 s/Topic: Schedule// 14:14:34 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:14:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:14:52 q+ 14:15:01 Topic: Issue #12, Registry plan 14:15:57 kaz: One issue is how to deal with existing bindings that were created under the TD version 1 14:16:47 ege: The question is whether the entries can be modified after they are registered 14:17:29 kaz: Will check with PLH again 14:18:14 ege: can somei=one take issue #13 to create the empty bindings table? 14:18:34 s/somei=one/someone 14:19:39 Topic: Normative content from the Architecture document 14:20:48 ege: Toumura-san will do the work of copying normative content (assertions) from the Architecture document to the TD document 14:20:49 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:20:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:21:18 i|Any comments|scribenick: mjk| 14:21:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:21:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:21:40 s/Topic: Schedule// 14:21:41 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:21:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:22:07 ege: are there opinions on how we should do this? 14:22:09 q? 14:23:34 kaz: The style and policy is a little different from the Architecture. we can first copy the text and than refine it later - we should be careful 14:24:24 ege: we should make sure we preserve the intention and meaning, make sure there the normative content make sense 14:24:54 ack k 14:25:59 s/style and policy/style and policy for TD/ 14:26:00 ege: we need to create an issue for tracking 14:26:13 ... maybe make a list first? 14:28:22 toumura: there are a lot of assertions, we should proceed step by step 14:31:00 ege: (created issue #2120 to track this work) 14:31:19 Topic: PRs 14:31:39 Subtopic: PR # 2081 14:31:52 ege: Makes content type optional 14:32:24 jan: This issue came up in discovery 14:33:08 i|Make|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2081 TD PR 2081 - Make contentType optional in ExpectedResponse and AdditionalExpectedResponse classes| 14:33:09 ... some of the response codes that don't return payloads 14:33:15 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:33:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:33:37 ... it also bears on the resuable connections 14:34:27 ege: in 2.0 there will be a global default 14:34:39 s/2.0/TD 2.0/ 14:35:35 jan: would it be OK to remove now and add the default later? 14:35:42 ege: it's OK 14:36:10 jan: then I need to look at the impact of assertion violations 14:36:51 ege: we can review again at the next call on August 20-21 14:37:12 jan: I should be able to wrap it up by then 14:38:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:38:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:38:39 subtopic: PR #2118 14:39:48 ege: Explains the binding mechanism. There are no significant changes since last week 14:40:16 ... content is from the previous Binding Template document 14:41:23 q? 14:41:26 ... does anyone need more time to review or have comments on the direction 14:41:38 i|Explains|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118 TD PR 2118 - Binding Intro Reorganization| 14:41:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:41:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:42:06 q+ 14:42:42 ... Any objection to merge after fixing a couple of nits 14:42:54 ack k 14:44:19 kaz: for the future, we need to clarify the relationship between binding and profile mechanism 14:44:53 q? 14:45:55 dape has joined #wot-td 14:46:05 ege: (adding a new issue for that, # 2121 14:46:26 s/2121/2121) 14:46:52 rrsagent, create minutes 14:46:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html dape 14:47:11 subtopic: PR #424 14:47:27 s/424/433 14:48:06 ege: updates the current document to simply refer to the new document 14:48:39 i|updates|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/434 Binding PR 434 - Retiring the main document| 14:48:57 q+ 14:48:58 ... We discussed and the updated document needs to still have the regular respec intro content with an abstract 14:49:09 ... I can finish by tomorrow 14:49:18 q- 14:49:22 q+ 14:49:30 kaz: it's more to be nicer for the readers 14:49:45 dape: can we set up a forwarding process? 14:50:12 ack dape 14:50:28 ege: it's not a simple forwarding 14:51:05 subtopic: PR #432 14:51:54 ege: removes the word "template"with explanation 14:52:01 i|removes|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/432 Binding PR 432 - Adapting to Registry and Binding Word Usage| 14:52:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:52:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:52:32 s/explanation/explanation, from the existing binding documents 14:52:40 ... mostly an editorial change 14:52:46 s/Topic: PRs/Topic: TD PRs/ 14:53:05 ... we can merge after people have time to review 14:53:06 q? 14:53:11 i|PR #433|topic: Binding PRs| 14:53:13 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:53:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:53:40 subtopic: PR #16 in the registry repo 14:53:59 i|subtopic:|topic: Registry PRs| 14:53:59 ege: adds Ege to the editor list 14:54:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:54:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:54:08 q? 14:54:18 ... any comments? OK to merge? 14:54:31 ... no comments, merged 14:54:33 i|adds Ege|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/16 Registry PR 16 - Adding Ege Korkan to editors list| 14:54:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:54:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:54:42 subtopic: PR # 18 14:55:03 ege: deleted the requirements.md document 14:55:14 i|deleted|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/18 Registry PR 18 - Delete requirements.md| 14:55:30 ... Daniel has moved all the content 14:55:41 dape: yes, everything is moved 14:56:00 ege: no objections, merged 14:56:15 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:56:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:56:22 subtopic: PR #19 14:56:44 ege: refactors the introduction 14:56:56 i|refactors|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/19 Registry PR 19 - Intro Refactor| 14:56:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:56:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:57:48 ege: any comments or need more time? 14:58:15 q? 14:58:52 dape: small correction to the 2nd paragraph 14:59:00 ege: (makes correction) 14:59:20 ... merged 15:00:01 subtopic: PR #17 15:01:04 ege: assertion text 15:01:13 i|assertion|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/17 Registry PR 17 - refactor: reformat document| 15:01:15 dape: I can revert the changes for now 15:01:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:01:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 15:01:43 ege: some of them can be moved to a bew place 15:01:54 s/bew/new/ 15:02:25 subtopic: PR #20 15:03:02 ege: aligns the README content 15:04:00 ... is this OK with everyone? 15:04:25 i|align|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/pull/20 Registry PR 20 - Readme Alignment| 15:04:45 ... merged 15:04:53 ege: AOB? 15:05:00 ... adjourned 15:05:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:05:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/08/06-wot-td-minutes.html kaz