IRC log of tt on 2025-07-31

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Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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nigel has changed the topic to: TTWG Teleconference 2025-07-31. Agenda and joining details via https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/312
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Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/312
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scribe: nigel
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Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-tt-minutes.html
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Present: Atsushi, Nigel, Andreas, Matt, Pierre
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Chair: Nigel
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Regrets: Gary, Cyril
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Topic: This Meeting
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Nigel: Today we have DAPT and IMSC 1.3, and TPAC 2025 planning
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.. Anything else for the agenda? Any points to make sure we cover within those topics?
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Topic: DAPT
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Subtopic: Publish a CR Snapshot
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PROPOSAL: Publish a CR Snapshot of DAPT based on the current CR Draft
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Nigel: I issued the call for consensus for this in the last call, and have had no objections.
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.. Last chance for questions/comments/objections?
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no objections
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RESOLUTION: Publish a CR Snapshot of DAPT based on the current CR Draft
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Nigel: That resolution won't have a further review period.
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.. (because it's had the 2 weeks already)
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.. Atsushi, do you need anything further to make that happen?
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Atsushi: I haven't checked but I think we need to update the change log and there have
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.. been a number of substantive changes, so we need a delta review from the last CRS.
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Nigel: I think we've been updating the change summary as we have been going along.
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Atsushi: I haven't had time to go through the pull requests since the last CRS.
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Nigel: Will you initiate that delta review with the pull requests merged, or do you need
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.. anything from us?
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Atsushi: I need the change summary
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-> https://www.w3.org/TR/dapt/substantive-changes-summary.txt Substantive Changes Summary
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Atsushi: The delta review should check the changes since the previous CRS
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Nigel: We've only tracked since FPWD so I will go and add a subheading for CRS in that change summary
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.. Unless you want to do that?
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Atsushi: I may not be able to get to this until 14th.
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Nigel: How will you do the delta review?
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Atsushi: Same as requesting HR, but noting that it's a delta and not the first CRS.
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Nigel: OK
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Atushi: We have a link that has a template for doing this which we can use, pasting a link to the change log.
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.. Normally we use the same self-review checklist that we already did.
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Nigel: Makes sense, I don't think anything has changed.
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Atsushi: Completing the request should be straightforward once we have the change log.
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Topic: IMSC 1.3
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-> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.3/ FPWD was published on 2025-07-22
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Subtopic: Wide Review
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Nigel: Wide Review looks like it's going okay
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.. We sent outgoing liaison messages, and opened the HR issues.
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.. And we've had some response back.
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.. I believe TAG and Security have closed with no comments.
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Atsushi: i18n have closed on this in the last hour
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Nigel: Great, that leaves privacy and accessibility remaining.
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.. Pierre, anything to add?
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Pierre: No, thank you for following up with the security review.
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.. I think there's no action to take on IMSC?
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Nigel: I think so, yes, from those reviews anyway.
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Pierre: We have a bunch of smaller issues to deal with before CR so I will start processing those.
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Nigel: Like what?
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Pierre: There's a leftover editor's note.
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.. Ordering subsections.
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.. Editorial stuff, it's minor, but I'll work through it.
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Nigel: Thank you.
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.. I also have an action about the examples.
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Pierre: Yes, that's w3c/imsc#553.
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Nigel: Not sure when I will get round to it.
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Pierre: No urgency, ideally before publication!
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Nigel: [laughs]
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Topic: TPAC 2025 planning
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Nigel: The schedule is now available.
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-> https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/schedule.html TPAC 2025 Schedule
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Nigel: The Accessibility Guidelines WG moved their slots from Thursday and Friday back to Monday and Tuesday.
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.. Really unfortunate from my point of view.
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Pierre: That's really unfortunate, is there a way to influence it?
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Nigel: I don't know, I will ask the Chair.
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.. Any agenda+ items for TPAC at this stage?
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.. On my list is DAPT implementation and IMSC 1.3 progression
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.. I guess there might be some WebVTT stuff too.
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Andreas: No items at the moment but I'm thinking of topics to raise.
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Nigel: It doesn't fit in our remit but I expect there to be some discussion about timed text in
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.. media source extensions too.
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.. And possibly more on TextTrackCue refactoring
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Topic: Meeting close
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Nigel: Next call is scheduled for 14th August, but neither Gary nor I can make it.
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.. Anyone want to go ahead in our absence, or shall we conform we are cancelling it?
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Andreas: Makes sense to skip the call
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Pierre: Nothing urgent on IMSC, hopefully we will start getting feedback from our Wide Review
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.. (Horizontal Review)
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Nigel: OK, I will cancel that and our next call will be on 28th August.
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.. Thanks for attending everyone. [adjourns meeting]
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As of this point the attendees have been Atsushi, Nigel, Andreas, Matt, Pierre
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I see no action items