14:06:55 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 14:06:59 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-irc 14:07:14 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 1 14:07:38 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Daniel_Peintner, Josh_Thomas, Kunihiko_Toumura 14:09:40 present+ Michel_Koster 14:09:51 rrsagent, make log public 14:09:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:09:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:10:11 chair: Ege, Koster 14:10:14 Mizushima has joined #wot-td 14:10:21 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:10:23 dape has joined #wot-td 14:10:24 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:10:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:12:11 scribenick: kaz 14:13:00 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#July_30%2C_2025 14:13:04 topic: Logistics 14:13:13 ek: we won't have the call tomorrow 14:13:35 ... topics for today: Schedule, Binding Section of TD, Registry Issues (Ege, Daniel, Cris), Charter Inputs (if time left) 14:13:46 topic: Minutes 14:13:54 present+ Jan_Romann 14:14:14 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-td-minutes.html July-23 14:14:22 ek: (goes through the minutes) 14:14:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:14:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:15:58 q? 14:16:07 ... the discussion with the Agents CG guys was interesting 14:16:10 (minutes approved) 14:16:18 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/24-wot-td-minutes.html July-24 14:16:34 ek: (goes through the minutes) 14:16:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:16:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:17:01 (also approved) 14:17:14 topic: Schedule 14:17:27 ek: should look at the publication schedule 14:17:39 ... it's a Charter-driven schedule 14:17:43 janro has joined #wot-td 14:17:59 ... The meetings on July 31st, August 13 and 14 are cancelled. The rest of the meetings will be held. 14:18:31 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1939 14:18:35 ... the policy about "Editors and Authors" to be discussed during the main call 14:19:12 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/wg-schedule.md WG schedule 14:19:43 ek: we'd publish an updated draft as FPWD before the end of the current Charter 14:20:08 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/wg-schedule.md#td specifically, TD schedule 14:20:42 ek: by August 28, would freeze the draft and create a static HTML for publication 14:20:50 ... any issues or concerns? 14:20:52 (none) 14:21:38 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2112 TD Issue 2112 - TD 2.0 FPWD Goals 14:21:52 ek: (goes through the bullet points in the Issue) 14:22:00 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:22:01 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:22:54 ... smaller editorial changes can be handled in parallel 14:23:12 q? 14:23:41 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-bindings-registry/issues/12 Registry Issue 12 - First Draft Registry Plan 14:24:12 ek: the content has been copied from MD to HTML 14:24:38 ... there is not so much we can do for the registry itself at the moment 14:24:48 ... one open discussion is 14:25:27 ... how to submit the existing bindings? 14:25:36 q+ 14:26:25 kaz: just to make sure, you mean our own defined bindings, e.g., HTTP and CoAP? 14:26:29 ek: yeah 14:26:39 ... (shows the CoAP Binding as an example) 14:26:41 q? 14:26:41 q- 14:27:19 kaz: will have a 1:1 meeting with Philippe on Monday 14:27:28 ... and will talk about this there 14:28:00 topic: Binding Section of the TD Spec 14:29:22 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#binding-templates TD Spec Editor's Draft - 8. Binding Templates 14:29:32 ek: (shows section 8 from TD spec) 14:29:45 ... the old abstract is not really correct any more 14:29:56 q+ to https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/#protocol-bindings-table 14:30:17 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118 TD PR 2118 - Binding Intro Reorganization 14:30:40 dp: not directly related to PR 2118 but was wondering about the protocol binding table 14:31:06 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/#protocol-bindings-table 4.1.3 Existing Protocol Binding Templates 14:32:11 q+ 14:33:08 q+ 14:33:27 ack dape 14:33:27 dape, you wanted to https://w3c.github.io/wot-binding-templates/#protocol-bindings-table 14:33:28 kaz: we need to think about this kind of information (e.g., binding template example table) within the TD spec sections other than section 8. right? 14:33:32 ack k 14:34:04 dp: don't need to resolve this kind of issue today, though 14:34:06 kaz: right 14:34:18 ... let's add another bullet point to the Issue 2112 14:34:34 q? 14:35:27 jr: individual binding will be added to the registry in the end. right? 14:35:28 ek: yes 14:36:45 s/individual binding will be added to the registry in the end. right?/Will the protocol binding documents continue to live in this repository?/ 14:36:51 ... on the other hand, we need to think about how to deal with the information (e.g., the table on existing Bindings) within the Binding Templates document 14:36:51 rssagent, draft minutes 14:37:08 s/rssagent, draft minutes// 14:37:15 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:37:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html janro 14:40:46 kaz: think there are 2 points here 14:41:10 ... regarding the procedure about how to deal with the old Binding Templates document, I'll talk with PLH 14:41:48 ... and regarding the content of the existing Binding table, we should import that as well with some appropriate text to the TD 2.0 spec 14:41:53 ek: yeah 14:42:40 ... (then goes back to the original discussion about PR 2118) 14:43:03 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118 TD PR 2118 - Binding Intro Reorganization 14:43:10 ek: (goes through the diff) 14:43:25 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118/files changes 14:44:14 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118/files#diff-20c762491016637ceac07ca2c6c28cc19333d98b482bac4d863ac95cf88e9b6b specifically the changes around index.template.html 14:44:29 ... (shows the important points) 14:45:25 https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118.html 14:45:40 ... (shows the preview above) 14:46:40 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118.html#adding-bindings specifically, "7.2 Adding Bindings" and so on 14:47:10 q? 14:47:16 ack j 14:47:25 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118.html#bindings "8. Bindings" as well 14:47:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:47:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 14:47:39 q+ 14:48:31 ack dape 14:48:56 dp: regarding the ToC, the title of section 8.1.3 should be fixed as "Protocol Bindings and Payload" 14:49:01 ek: ah, yes 14:49:12 ... (fixes that within the PR) 14:49:42 ... also I've started to work on individual Bindings 14:49:56 https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/432 14:52:10 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/432|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/432 binding templates PR 432 - Adapting to Registry and Binding Word Usage 14:52:23 topic: WG Charter 14:52:43 ek: the Charter itself is an issue for the whole WoT WG 14:52:53 ... but the TD TF still can give input 14:53:21 ... which topics to be continued and which to be changed 14:53:42 ... e.g., new specifications needed 14:53:48 ... would like to hear from you 14:54:19 -> https://www.w3.org/2023/10/wot-wg-2023.html current WoT WG Charter 14:54:35 ek: there is some stuff within our planning document 14:55:18 ... high-level descriptions within the Charter don't need to be changed 14:55:33 ... maybe one of the points we need to be clear is... 14:55:52 ... Binding Document as a Registry 14:57:03 q+ 14:57:05 ... (shows the section "6.1 Entry format") 14:57:15 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-bindings-registry/#entry-format 6.1 Entry format 14:57:43 jr: have we included necessary information into the TD spec yet? 14:57:50 ek: still to be done 14:58:14 ... we can't finalize the TD 2.0 spec as REC by the end of the current Charter 14:58:50 ... we originally wanted to work on TD 2.0 in parallel with TD 1.1 14:59:04 ... but TD 1.1 took longer and we had to use the whole time for that 14:59:29 ... anyway, let's think about what to do for the next Charter period 14:59:49 ... any other business for today? 14:59:51 (none) 14:59:53 [adjourned] 14:59:58 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:59:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 15:00:59 s/have we included necessary information into the TD spec yet/Are the features we are planning to work on during the next charter already going to justify a TD version 3.0 or is it rather going to be version 2.1?/ 15:03:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:03:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 15:12:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:12:58 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 17:25:15 Zakim has left #wot-td