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12:02:11 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
12:02:37 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura
12:02:42 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:02:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:04:20 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:04:28 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan, Josh_Thomas
12:04:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:04:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:06:19 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:07:07 <sebastian> Today I am traveling and can only stay for the first 30 minutes.
12:07:56 <McCool> scribenick: McCool
12:08:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:08:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:08:26 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#30_July_2025
12:08:30 <kaz> chair: Kosteer
12:08:54 <sebastian> s/Kosteer/Koster
12:09:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:09:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:09:47 <kaz> q?
12:09:49 <McCool> topic: Guests
12:09:53 <McCool> none
12:10:00 <McCool> topic: Minutes
12:10:07 <kaz> s/Today I am traveling and can only stay for the first 30 minutes.//
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12:10:14 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-minutes.html
12:10:28 <kaz> s|https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-minutes.html July23|
12:10:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:10:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:11:52 <McCool> mk: minor typo; any other corrections?
12:12:34 <McCool> kaz: copied text from wiki, typo may be in wiki, will fix wiki later
12:13:14 <McCool> mk: no objections heard, approved
12:13:22 <McCool> topic: Quick Items
12:13:42 <kaz> s/copied text/fixed. copied text/
12:13:54 <kaz> mm: (gives updates on his status)
12:14:42 <kaz> ... would not be very active for WoT
12:14:51 <kaz> i|gives|scribenick: kaz|
12:15:17 <McCool> mm: after Aug 31 will only be attending occasionally a guest
12:15:34 <kaz> i|after|scribenick: McCool|
12:15:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:15:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:15:50 <dape> q+
12:16:23 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:16:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:18:55 <dape> ack dape
12:19:26 <kaz> q+
12:19:32 <McCool> mk: update on plugfest room
12:19:54 <McCool> kaz: got one room, can use on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday; event team will working on Sunday, however
12:20:18 <McCool> ... do we need that room for Wed as well?  Thought it would be better, wanted to ask
12:21:04 <McCool> mm: will that room be used for the breakout?
12:21:12 <McCool> kaz: not sure, that was my suggestion
12:22:16 <McCool> mm: my opinion is that moving rooms is not really feasible for demos; can't really set up in 5 minutes...
12:22:27 <McCool> mk: too much risk, I agree
12:22:50 <McCool> de: could easily take all the breakout time trying to get things working again
12:23:18 <McCool> kaz: after getting a resolution, the other question is how long will it take to wrap up.
12:23:35 <McCool> ege: 30m minimum
12:23:50 <McCool> kaz: can we do it in break time, e.g. 10m?
12:24:05 <McCool> ege: I don't think that is feasible, there are usually a lot of cables
12:24:21 <McCool> kaz: ok, so we will need the room for the following session as well
12:25:52 <kaz> proposal: we need to use the plugfest room on Wednesday as well, and would be nicer to use the same room for the breakout. also it would take 30mins or so to wrap up the devices, so would use the room after our own breakout as well
12:26:22 <kaz> resolution: we need to use the plugfest room on Wednesday as well, and would be nicer to use the same room for the breakout. also it would take 30mins or so to wrap up the devices, so would use the room after our own breakout as well
12:27:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:27:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:27:17 <McCool> mk: next, want to restart plugfest planning
12:27:31 <McCool> ... slot after this has been used for profile... so would like to find a different slot for one of them
12:27:34 <kaz> i|gives updates|subtopic: McCool's status|
12:27:46 <McCool> ... our agenda is pretty full
12:28:00 <kaz> i|update on plugfest|subtopic: Plugfest room|
12:28:03 <McCool> ... preferred would be for profiles to find a different slot
12:28:20 <McCool> kaz: there is a profile call planned for today
12:28:34 <kaz> i|next, want|subtopic: Plugfest call|
12:28:35 <McCool> ... can use slot for plugfest next week
12:28:36 <kaz> q?
12:28:38 <kaz> ack k
12:28:38 <McCool> q+
12:28:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:28:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:29:04 <McCool> mk: had a short deadline on Profile, but...
12:29:35 <McCool> ... but hopefully will wrap up today...
12:29:39 <kaz> q+
12:30:13 <McCool> mm: were the NGSI-LD people invited?
12:30:49 <kaz> ack m
12:30:50 <kaz> ack k
12:31:07 <McCool> kaz: also need a resolution to actually invite them
12:31:29 <mjk> Proposal: Invite NGSI-LD people to the Plugfest meeting on August 6
12:31:35 <McCool> mm: I also suggest that mk send them a quick email immediately so they know it's next week and not this week
12:32:14 <mjk> Resolution: Invite NGSI-LD people to the Plugfest meeting on August 6
12:32:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:32:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:33:05 <benfrancis> q?
12:33:08 <McCool> ege: binding registry needs and editor
12:33:18 <benfrancis> q+
12:33:21 <McCool> ... proposal is for myself as one of the editors
12:33:28 <McCool> ... but need to follow the process
12:33:52 <McCool> ... is slot in agenda in TD/Binding call later today
12:34:09 <McCool> mk: let's consider a resolution now...
12:34:13 <kaz> present+ Ben_Francis
12:34:59 <kaz> q+
12:35:40 <McCool> kaz: we could find another slot for profiles next week...
12:35:51 <McCool> ben: I think we do need that call next week
12:36:08 <McCool> mk: we are off the week after that, too
12:36:27 <McCool> ... wish would push the next plugfest call to Aug 20
12:36:31 <kaz> s/we could find another slot for profiles next week.../if you're also ok with letting the Plugfest TF use the slot next week, we can handle the Calendar entries appropriately./
12:36:39 <kaz> q+
12:37:10 <dezell> q+
12:37:19 <dezell> q-
12:37:19 <McCool> mm: could do a doodle, could use the NGSI-LD slot on monday for the plugfest call...
12:38:06 <McCool> kaz: if ben feels he needs the slot next week, then we should try to find another slot; also, publishing a note is still a long process
12:38:33 <McCool> ben: once the note is published we can alternate, but next week is important to wrap things up
12:39:33 <McCool> kaz: ok to change resolution and prioritize profile
12:39:49 <mjk> Proposal: revert the resolution to have the Plugfest call and instead have the Profile call on August 6th
12:40:22 <mjk> Resolution: revert the resolution to have the Plugfest call and instead have the Profile call on August 6th
12:40:23 <McCool> mm: should still let the NGSI-LD people know that we're trying to find a time...
12:40:56 <McCool> kaz: will looking into making a doodle poll
12:41:17 <McCool> mk: please do, and include the current NGSI-LD slot
12:41:29 <mjk> proposal: Ege to become editor of the Binding Registry document
12:42:38 <mjk> Resolution: Ege to become editor of the Binding Registry document
12:43:42 <benfrancis> q+
12:43:43 <mjk> proposal: Remove Michael McCool as editor on documents except for Use case and Requirements
12:43:54 <kaz> q-
12:44:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:45:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:45:27 <benfrancis> q?
12:45:29 <benfrancis> q-
12:45:33 <mjk> proposal: Remove Michael McCool as editor on documents except for Use case and Requirements and Profile
12:45:43 <kaz> q+
12:45:54 <kaz> action: kaz to create a doodle poll for the Plugfest call including the current NGSI-LD slot
12:46:06 <kaz> q-
12:46:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:46:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:46:58 <McCool> topic: UCR PR
12:47:09 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/372
12:47:48 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/372|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/372 UCR PR 372 - Update Security User Stories|
12:48:03 <kaz> mm: some pending edits, though
12:48:20 <kaz> ... call for resolution today, and actual resolution next week
12:48:29 <kaz> i|some|scribenick: kaz|
12:48:48 <kaz> ... (shows the diff within section 5)
12:49:15 <kaz> s/diff/preview around "User stories"/
12:49:29 <kaz> -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/372.html#sec-user-stories Preview - 5.1 User Stories
12:49:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:49:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:50:07 <kaz> mm: still fixing some of the descriptions
12:50:30 <kaz> ... please review this PR so that we can make the resolution next week
12:50:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:51:02 <McCool> mm: want to call for a resolution to merge this PR by next week, and will finish by the end of today so it can be reviewed
12:51:18 <kaz> i|want to|scribenick: McCool|
12:51:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:51:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:52:02 <McCool> topic: Notices
12:52:06 <McCool> mk: any?
12:52:22 <McCool> topic: TPAC 2025 Planning
12:52:31 <McCool> mk: still need people to fill in attendance
12:52:37 <McCool> ... and add topics
12:52:43 <kaz> s|still|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_TPAC_2025_planning TPAC WoT wiki|
12:52:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:52:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:52:52 <McCool> ... plugfest signups...
12:53:02 <McCool> ... this table is really just for us to track invitees, like the NGSI-LD
12:53:05 <kaz> q+
12:53:31 <McCool> mk: still need breakouts
12:53:48 <McCool> kaz: deadlines are not that far away, now
12:53:52 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/registration.html#funds TPAC 2025 funding
12:53:59 <mjk> q?
12:54:26 <McCool> kaz: there will be funding for invited experts, need to request by Aug 8
12:55:08 <kaz> q-
12:55:23 <kaz> s/kaz: deadlines/mk: deadlines/
12:55:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:55:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:55:36 <McCool> topic: schedule
12:55:51 <McCool> mk: nothing changed, but note week of 11th will be off
12:56:06 <McCool> ... still need to work on TD schedule
12:56:12 <kaz> i|nothing|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations|
12:56:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:56:38 <McCool> topic: New Charter
12:56:50 <McCool> mk: after vacation; will dig into it in September
12:56:53 <kaz> q+
12:57:13 <kaz> q-
12:57:13 <McCool> kaz: we need to use latest updated template, which will be messy; I will help
12:57:49 <McCool> topic: meetups
12:57:55 <kaz> s/meet/Meet/
12:58:00 <McCool> mk: any?  I don't see any planned.
12:58:04 <McCool> ege: nothing planned
12:58:11 <McCool> q?
12:58:18 <kaz> i/any/subtopic: WoT CG/
12:58:21 <kaz> q+
12:58:23 <McCool> mz: no updates from JP group
12:58:29 <McCool> mk: Smart Cities?
12:58:53 <kaz> i/no updates/subtopic: WoT-JP CG/
12:59:04 <kaz> i/Smart/subtopic: Smart Cities IG/
12:59:10 <McCool> kaz: need to meet in Sept, could not find a good slot in Aug
12:59:34 <McCool> mm: I'm not really involved in the CEC CG any more
12:59:46 <McCool> topic: policies
12:59:54 <McCool> mk: will consider as part of new charter
13:00:02 <McCool> topic: task force leads
13:00:07 <EgeKorkan> q+
13:00:12 <kaz> q-
13:00:15 <McCool> mk: new charter will also consider TF structures and leads...
13:00:43 <kaz> i|CEC|subtopic: Cloud-Edge-Client Coordination CG|
13:00:47 <McCool> ege: there is a point under policies regarding editors
13:00:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:00:54 <kaz> q+
13:01:13 <kaz> ack e
13:01:14 <kaz> ack k
13:01:17 <McCool> mk: need a consistent policy for how we describe contributors in documents consistently; will discuss next week
13:01:18 <benfrancis> q+
13:01:43 <kaz> ack b
13:01:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:01:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:01:58 <McCool> ben: directly after this call be do have profiles, are trying to finalize note; several PRs to review
13:02:02 <McCool> ... same Zoom link
13:02:17 <McCool> mk: adjourned
13:02:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:02:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:46:02 <dezell> me my apologies, I had a high-priority interrupt I had to handle.  I have returned.
13:55:30 <dezell> q+