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13:07:39 <kaz> topic: Minutes review
13:07:50 <jthomas> bf: Minor change due to my absence. Anyone have any comments on the current minutes?
13:08:08 <kaz> i|Minor|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/07/09-wot-profile-minutes.html July-9|
13:09:31 <jthomas> Minutes Approved
13:09:36 <jthomas> Topic: Schedule
13:09:45 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:09:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:09:57 <jthomas> bf: Target is to publish the note by end of July.
13:10:12 <jthomas> ... Lots of PR's but it is still feasible
13:10:42 <kaz> q+
13:10:48 <jthomas> ... Need a review of the process for publishing. Do we need to create a new folder to the Publications folder in the repo and copy the document there.
13:11:08 <kaz> q-
13:11:14 <jthomas> kaz: Copy the static HTML version there. And then I can do the publication procedure.
13:11:29 <jthomas> bf: Any questions on Schedule?
13:11:33 <benfrancis> q?
13:11:52 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ben_Francis, David_Ezell, Michael_Koster, Ege_Korkan, Josh_Thomas, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:11:59 <kaz> chair: Ben
13:12:03 <jthomas> bf: 8 PR's to review.
13:12:13 <kaz> i|Minor change|sribenick: jthomas|
13:12:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:12:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:12:24 <jthomas> ... Need to discuss having a call next week
13:12:34 <jthomas> Topic: Pull Request review
13:12:35 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Profile_WebConf#Profiles_-_2025-07-23
13:12:45 <kaz> subtopic: PR 426
13:13:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/426 PR 426 - Re-work HTTP Webhook Profile - closes #423
13:13:12 <benfrancis> q?
13:13:12 <jthomas> bf: open for 3 weeks and ready for review. This is a significant change.
13:13:19 <kaz> meeting: WoT Profile
13:13:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:13:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:14:23 <jthomas> br: Comments from Luca, we defined a new payload wrapper, and moved things to the data payload.
13:14:31 <EgeKorkan> +1 based on the explanation :)
13:14:33 <jthomas> s|br:|bf:|
13:14:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:14:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:15:04 <kaz> s/sribenick:/scribenick:/
13:15:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:15:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:15:43 <jthomas> +1 here since the only comment left is the one for a more standard def on Webhooks
13:16:15 <jthomas> bf: Merging the PR based on notes here
13:16:24 <jthomas> Subtopic PR 427
13:16:49 <jthomas> bf: Last time we just were waiting on more time for review. Any comments or more time to review?
13:17:25 <jthomas> ... Any objections to merge?
13:17:43 <jthomas> ... PR 427 merged
13:17:55 <jthomas> subtopic: PR 428
13:19:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:19:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:19:14 <jthomas> bf: There was some constraints in accessibility saying there must have a title and description. This was moved to a consideration section not requirements.
13:19:19 <benfrancis> q?
13:19:41 <kaz> i|There was|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/428 PR 428 - Replace Accessibility Constraints with Accessibility Considerations section - closes #320|
13:19:43 <jthomas> ... Any objections on merging?
13:19:52 <kaz> s/Subtopic PR/subtopic: PR/
13:20:10 <jthomas> Subtopic: PR 429
13:20:18 <kaz> i|Last time|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/427 PR 427 - Re-work Links section - closes #255|
13:20:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:20:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:21:25 <jthomas> bf: This is a discussion on the default language section. This is a requirement of the language array and to remove it to fall back on the TD level. If Language negotiation has happened then it should appear otherwise the key is not required.
13:21:51 <kaz> i|This is a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/429 PR 429 - Remove Default Language section - closes #373|
13:21:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:21:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:22:00 <benfrancis> q?
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13:22:25 <jthomas> ... Call to merge the PR, any objections?
13:23:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:23:25 <jthomas> Subtopic: PR 430
13:23:41 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/430 PR 430 - Soften privacy and security assertions - closes #422|
13:23:46 <kaz> s/422|/422/
13:23:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:26:28 <jthomas> bf: Had a discussion in 422 on the privacy considerations. We softened the consideration to move from Must to Should. Requiring all the privacy considerations would be overwhelming.
13:27:05 <benfrancis> q?
13:27:38 <jthomas> ... Any objections to merging today?
13:28:03 <jthomas> Subtopic: PR 431
13:31:39 <benfrancis> q?
13:32:13 <jthomas> bf: Is an attempt to close three issues, these are about what a profile can and cannot do. This cannot be fixed in 1.0. We want to clarify. This changes some levels of requirements to Should. The profile should not redefine the defaults from the binding template.
13:33:08 <jthomas> ... Next is a profile can extend the TD, but anything exposed in the TD should stay the same to someone that does not implement the Profile.
13:33:17 <benfrancis> q?
13:33:56 <jthomas> ... Final issue is just because a thing conforms to a profile the consumer should not assume that it does in fact confirm.
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13:39:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:39:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:41:11 <jthomas> PR 431 needs a final review from Ted
13:41:20 <jthomas> Subtopic: PR 433
13:42:34 <jthomas> bf: This is from SK, updates the assertions to the security section. We need to discuss EK, comment on the combo security scheme.
13:43:05 <kaz> i|Is an a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/431 PR 431 - Profiling mechanism clarifications - closes #385, closes #403, closes #404|
13:43:07 <benfrancis> q?
13:43:26 <kaz> i|This is from|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/433 PR 433 - Duplicate conflicting assertion - closes #367|
13:43:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:44:53 <benfrancis> q?
13:49:06 <jthomas> bf: one use case is an auth bearer token. If you place it in the URL and Cookie, you need to use a Combo since each defines a different IN. They are the same type but different parameters.
13:49:21 <benfrancis> q?
13:53:23 <benfrancis> q?
13:56:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:56:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:56:38 <jthomas> jt: With the combo, you need to define why the combo is an option. No Auth and any other option would be a good Combo. But defining two Bearer types with a different IN property would be a good example of how to use Combo.
13:57:54 <jthomas> bf: we might merge this out to two PR's one for assertions, which is fixed, and one for the Combo scheme.
13:57:59 <benfrancis> q?
13:58:27 <jthomas> Subtopic: 435
13:59:38 <jthomas> bf: There was a link that needed moved from Github to w3c. Issue in the comment was that the final destionation of the line might move again until published.
14:00:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:00:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
14:01:15 <kaz> i|There was a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/435 PR 435 - Fix broken link to Profile requirements - closes #434|
14:01:27 <kaz> s/Subtopic: 435/Subtopic: PR 435/
14:02:03 <kaz> topic: Assign 1.0 issues needing a PR
14:02:33 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/360 Issue 360 - Clarify the behavior when a response does not have body
14:03:25 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/432 Issue 432 - Should clarify our plan for WoT Profile 1.0 within the Introduction section
14:03:50 <kaz> bf: can take Issue 432, and am wondering if somebody can take Issue 360...
14:04:36 <kaz> ... will continue the discussion next week (we can use the Plugfest slot for Profile discussion next Wednesday)
14:04:39 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:04:48 <kaz> i/can take/scribenick: kaz/
14:04:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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