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14:57:52 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
14:58:14 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model
14:58:26 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
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14:59:05 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
14:59:05 <Fazio> Agenda+ update on publication progress
14:59:14 <Fazio> present+
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15:03:04 <jkline> present+
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15:03:18 <Sheri_B-H> scribe+
15:03:26 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, next item
15:03:26 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:03:42 <janina> present+
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15:05:39 <Sheri_B-H> janina: to have a APA breakout at TPAC, we need an agenda.  doesn't seem forthcoming
15:06:36 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: how to get people to use it, etc.
15:06:53 <Sheri_B-H> janina: we have to have these discussions here (MM) first and then pitch it to APA
15:08:10 <Sheri_B-H> janina: we should do a breakout because we are going 1.0 to announce it is ready for widespread use
15:09:51 <Fazio> Sheri: Look at AI impact on maturity model
15:10:55 <Fazio> Sheri: Include Dominique in convo
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15:11:52 <Sheri_B-H> Janina:also Jutta
15:12:29 <Sheri_B-H> janina: how do we use it, worried about stunting creativity by relying on a technology that is good at regurgitating what is out on the internet
15:13:28 <Fazio> Sheri: how does a company stay a11y mature while using AI
15:14:43 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: we should do two breakouts, one for 1.0 and one for 1.1
15:15:40 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: duplicate for CSUN?
15:15:50 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri: yeah as one presentation
15:16:31 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio will submit TPAC for 1.0
15:16:46 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri_B-H will submit for 1.1, after sharing draft in email for comments
15:17:01 <Fazio> Q?
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15:17:45 <jkline> queue+
15:17:51 <Sheri_B-H> q-
15:17:57 <Sheri_B-H> ack jkline
15:19:55 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: we need to get the person in (@charlesl acquaintance) who converted the spreadsheet to HTML
15:19:55 <gb> https://github.com/charlesl -> @charlesl
15:20:54 <Sheri_B-H> person's name is John
15:22:33 <Sheri_B-H> CharlesL will see if he's available next week, otherwise 2nd or 3rd week of august since Charles will be out the first week of August
15:23:35 <Sheri_B-H> https://www.w3.org/TR/maturity-model/
15:25:27 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: noted discrepency between editors drafts and recent commits
15:25:45 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio will discuss with Roy
15:26:03 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, next item
15:26:03 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- update on publication progress -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:26:38 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: research update is pushed, janina's updates to the abstract and introduction are pushed (even though they aren't showing up)
15:27:09 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: spreadsheet is reordered, Jennifer Zhang is doing accessibility updates
15:27:32 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: started reordering of narrative, but stopped because commits aren't showing up
15:27:50 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: that is the last piece that needs to be finished
15:28:10 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: that should be wrapped up by the end of the month
15:28:57 <Sheri_B-H> janina: nothing from management, they are waiting for us to tell them we are done
15:29:25 <Sheri_B-H> ack Jkline
15:29:30 <Sheri_B-H> q jkline
15:29:34 <Sheri_B-H> ack jkline
15:32:04 <Sheri_B-H> general discussion around conflicts between what is pushed and what is showing
15:32:45 <Sheri_B-H> fazio:needs to get exact commit ids that are failing to Roy
15:33:26 <Sheri_B-H> janina:if the content of the push contains the external link to the spreadsheet, that might be triggering the error
15:34:10 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: Neha and Fazio will work on it over the next week
15:34:49 <Sheri_B-H> janina: we may have put back in the excel spreadsheet prematurely, we might have to take it out, finish the other changes, then push it back in
15:38:22 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, end meeting
15:38:22 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, jkline, Sheri_B-H, janina, CharlesL
15:38:24 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:38:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
15:38:33 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Sheri_B-H; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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