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13:22:20 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
13:22:29 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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13:24:30 <matatk> chair: Matthew
13:26:29 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:26:29 <matatk> agenda+ TPAC 2025
13:26:29 <matatk> agenda+ Comment review requests (requiring attention)
13:26:29 <matatk> agenda+ Comment review requests (in progress)
13:26:30 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
13:26:30 <matatk> agenda+ Other business
13:26:30 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
13:26:53 <matatk> regrets+ Gottfried_Zimmerman
13:26:57 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
13:26:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/23-apa-minutes.html matatk
13:33:23 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:33:23 <Zakim> Present: (no one)
13:33:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see matatk, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, gb, jcraig, jyasskin, slightlyoff, Roy_Ruoxi, vmpstr, alastairc, hdv, chrishtr, Rachael, tink, ada
13:33:56 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:34:11 <janina> Date: 23 Jul 2025
13:34:25 <janina> Chair: Matack
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14:01:04 <JenStrickland> present+
14:02:05 <matatk> chair: Matthew
14:02:07 <matatk> present+
14:02:11 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:03:16 <matatk> agenda?
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14:07:34 <JenStrickland> scribe+
14:07:39 <JenStrickland> present+
14:09:30 <JenStrickland> Introductions amongst the group for new member, Tiffany.
14:09:58 <JenStrickland> scribe-
14:10:28 <JenStrickland> My internet is out and I'm on a hotspot. I'm not getting a strong enough signal to hear what people are saying, so I can't scribe after all.
14:14:27 <Gottfried> I can take over, Jennifer.
14:14:36 <Gottfried> scribe:Gottfried
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14:15:26 <JonCohn> present+
14:16:07 <Fazio> +1 great group
14:18:07 <Gottfried> agenda?
14:18:57 <Gottfried> zakim, open agenda item 1
14:18:57 <Zakim> 'item\ 1' does not match any agenda item, Gottfried
14:19:08 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:19:08 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
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14:23:59 <Gottfried> matatk: Upcoming presentation from Lola et al on Accessibility Compatibility Data
14:24:33 <matatk> scribe+
14:24:41 <Fazio> I will be presenting on Maturity Model at AAATE
14:24:44 <matatk> Gottfried: AAATE conference in Cyprus
14:24:53 <Gottfried> https://aaate2025.eu/
14:25:50 <Fazio> https://aaate2025.eu/world-wide-web-consortium-w3c-accessibility-maturity-model/
14:25:51 <Gottfried> matatk: Vote on APA re-charter, decision hopefully next week by AC
14:26:47 <Gottfried> ... Our current charter expires next month.
14:27:01 <Gottfried> ... Hopefully no problem for invited experts.
14:27:26 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:27:26 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC 2025 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:27:39 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/registration.html
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14:28:19 <Gottfried> matatk: Registration is open. Fee waver for invited experts. Also W3C fund for inviting experts for other costs.
14:28:36 <Fredrik> present+
14:28:46 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts
14:29:31 <Gottfried> matatk: Call for breakout sessions. Apply if you have something new to say since last TPAC.
14:29:59 <Gottfried> ... Time slots on Wed and other days this time.
14:30:16 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/2025/11/TPAC/schedule.html
14:30:57 <Fazio> We don't have any Maturity Model Meetings scheduled
14:31:38 <Gottfried> Fazio: APA sessions?
14:31:59 <Gottfried> matatk: There is some working time scheduled, we (APA) might use it.
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14:32:50 <Gottfried> ... We did not ask for a group meeting for us, but we can discuss on proposing a breakout.
14:34:21 <matatk> agenda?
14:34:27 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:34:27 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Comment review requests (requiring attention) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:35:45 <matatk> subtopic: Add hover/focus/long-press triggering delays to CSS
14:36:00 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/205
14:36:30 <Gottfried> matatk: We hadn't looked at it in detail, but now closed. They changed its name.
14:36:54 <Gottfried> ... Addition to a pop-over feature.
14:37:19 <Gottfried> ... Any concerns?
14:37:59 <Gottfried> PaulG: Hover delays are reasonable.
14:38:17 <Gottfried> matatk: Better way to do what you can already so.
14:38:20 <Gottfried> ... We can close it.
14:38:36 <matatk> q?
14:39:17 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:39:17 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Comment review requests (in progress) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:39:20 <matatk> subtopic: CSS Overflow Navigation Controls (Carousels)
14:39:20 <matatk> source: w3ctag/design-reviews#1037
14:39:20 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/242
14:39:51 <Gottfried> matatk: TAG is working on a comment on this issue.
14:40:02 <Gottfried> ... Accessibility community raised concerns.
14:40:29 <Gottfried> ... They made the CSS inert property value the same as in HTML.
14:41:05 <Gottfried> ... Other concerning things.
14:42:02 <Gottfried> ... We might want to ask for some more specific parts.
14:42:21 <matatk> subtopic: Connect HTML spec up to new CSS `interactivity` property
14:42:21 <matatk> source: whatwg/html#10956
14:42:21 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/231
14:42:55 <Gottfried> matatk: Will this allow to accidentally break the inert of subtrees?
14:43:19 <Gottfried> s/inert/uninert
14:43:40 <matatk> Here's a comment that may answer the question about un-inerting: https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10956#issuecomment-2884388886
14:44:38 <Gottfried> ... Can somebody else look at this?
14:46:19 <JenStrickland> matatk I can't find my comment on it.
14:46:49 <Gottfried> ... This is must about making CSS and HTML behave the same on inertness.
14:47:30 <Gottfried> ... Please look at tracking issues in APA repository, and discuss them first here among us. Later, we can post them to the mailing list.
14:48:54 <Gottfried> JenStrickland: I will take a look at the issue of uninerting
14:50:14 <Gottfried> ... Looking at it quickly, inertness seems to be determined by the host language. How can accessibility concerns be taken care of?
14:50:33 <Gottfried> ... Can somebody like Steve look at this?
14:51:14 <Gottfried> matatk: It depends whether the inert attribute takes precedence.
14:51:33 <PaulG> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10956#discussion_r2096188289
14:51:54 <PaulG> "host language" is HTML
14:52:09 <Gottfried> JenStrickland: As long as HTML is prioritized over CSS, seems okay.
14:53:11 <Gottfried> zakim, next item
14:53:11 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- CSS Update (Paul) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:53:17 <Gottfried> No updates
14:54:01 <Gottfried> matatk: Accessibility guidance on anchor positioning - please contribute on this
14:54:05 <Gottfried> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/230
14:55:40 <Gottfried> zakim, bye
14:55:40 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been JenStrickland, matatk, PaulG, Fazio, janina, niklasegger, mike_beganyi, Gottfried, JonCohn, Fredrik
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