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13:48:53 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2025Jul/0001
13:49:03 <Steven> Meeting: XForms Group Weekly Teleconference
13:49:03 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:49:03 <Steven> Previous Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/06/13-forms-minutes
13:49:12 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
13:49:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/18-forms-minutes.html Steven
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13:59:02 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
13:59:53 <Steven> Topic: Error types
13:59:53 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2025Jul/att-0000/error-types.html
14:05:19 <Steven> Steven: [Goes over the detils of the document]
14:05:44 <Steven> Steven: Should every error have an error-type?
14:05:49 <Steven> Erik: And is it useful?
14:06:11 <Steven> ... it might be work for nothing
14:06:44 <Steven> Steven: So you get "binding-error" and nothing else
14:07:44 <Steven> Steven: error-type is useful for submit-error
14:07:52 <Steven> ... but that is a dynamic error
14:09:34 <Steven> Steven: ... maybe non fatal errors, that can be caught, should have an error-type
14:11:12 <Steven> Erik: How about error message?
14:11:18 <Steven> Steven: Several errors have them
14:12:08 <Steven> Erik: I need to look at specific cases.
14:14:48 <Steven> Steven: I'm hearing that the top-level philosophy is that there doesn't need to be an error-type unless there is some utility
14:17:05 <Steven> Steven: some questions
14:17:24 <Steven> ... @model on <action> is different from every other @model error
14:19:34 <Steven> Erik: It's OK
14:22:34 <Steven> Steven: I think the error requirement in the nonnormative section must be moved to the recalculate section
14:22:50 <Steven> ... (of -compute- section)
14:25:30 <Steven> Steven: Are we OK with how instances react to a link not being traversable?
14:26:32 <Steven> Erik: Why are we using two different errors?
14:26:40 <Steven> Steven: link is fatal, submit isn;t
14:26:45 <Steven> s/;/'/
14:27:21 <Steven> Steven: Leave as is?
14:27:28 <Steven> Erik: It makes sense.
14:29:22 <Steven> ACTION: STeven to repair some of the -error- errors
14:30:51 <Steven> Topic: AOB]
14:30:56 <Steven> s/]//
14:31:03 <Steven> Steven: Aug 8 I'm not available
14:32:03 <Steven> Alain: not available 8 and 15 AUg
14:32:17 <Steven> Erik: Available
14:32:46 <Steven> Alain: No, I'm not available until 22 Aug
14:32:52 <Steven> Steven: Oh sorry!
14:33:01 <Steven> Steven: OK SUmmer break
14:33:41 <Steven> ... next meeting 22 Aug
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14:34:11 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:35:22 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:35:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/18-forms-minutes.html Steven
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