13:01:28 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 13:01:32 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-irc 13:01:39 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2 13:01:58 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Michael_Koster 13:01:59 mjk has joined #wot-td 13:02:08 rrsagent, make log public 13:02:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:02:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:02:50 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 13:03:40 chair: Ege, Koster 13:03:46 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:03:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:04:14 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#July_16-17%2C_2025 13:04:52 scribenick: kaz 13:07:56 topic: Schedule 13:09:52 ek: would check the availability of Jan and Luca as well for summer vacation 13:10:37 topic: Agenda 13:10:43 mjk has joined #wot-td 13:10:44 ek: (goes through the agenda for today) 13:10:50 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#July_16-17%2C_2025 agenda for today 13:11:08 ek: we should discuss concrete schedule for publication today 13:11:28 ... (shows the wg-schedule.md) 13:11:48 -> @@@ 13:12:07 ek: the current WoT WG Charter ends on Oct 2 13:12:30 ... note I'll take off on 14-22 Sep 13:13:01 s|@@@|https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/wg-schedule.md wg-schedule.md| 13:13:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:13:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:13:19 ... let's add some edit to wg-schedule.md 13:14:06 ... would suggest we aim for Sep 11 for TD 2.0 FPWD 13:14:11 q+ 13:14:23 scribenick: EgeKorka_ 13:14:31 kaz: as a starting point, september 11th is ok 13:14:40 -> https://w3c.github.io/spec-releases/milestones/ Milestone calculator 13:14:46 ... but please take a look at the milestone calculator as well 13:15:04 ... to know the shortest publciation date 13:15:13 s/publciation/publication 13:15:29 ek: ok 13:15:38 ... any other opinions? 13:15:41 mjk: no 13:15:44 ... looks ok 13:15:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:15:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:16:13 i/ek: ok/scribenick: kaz/ 13:16:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:16:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:16:54 ek: (plays with the Milestones Calculator for a while) 13:17:44 kaz: if you want, you can add one line for the transition request right before the publication 13:17:46 ek: ok 13:18:32 q+ 13:19:58 kaz: regarding the latter publications, e.g., CR, PR and REC, we should be able to assume the WoT WG will be Chartered every time :) 13:20:24 (because "Out of Charter" is not allowed) 13:21:10 ek: how to deal with those latter dates? 13:21:39 mjk has joined #wot-td 13:21:44 kaz: my suggestion is putting the earliest dates since "March 13" is not earlier than today :) 13:21:46 mjk: right 13:22:09 ... let's put the dates generated by the Milestones Calculator as the starting point 13:22:12 kaz: + 13:22:26 s/kaz: +/kaz: +1/ 13:22:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:22:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:22:35 q- 13:22:49 q+ 13:23:09 ek: we should be aware of th group CfC as well 13:23:11 kaz: right 13:23:37 ... so would suggest we put that kind of additional information as well on wg-schedule.md 13:23:51 ek: we should be realistic here 13:25:55 ... the calculator suggests we make our CfC on Saturday, Sep 9 13:26:26 kaz: in that case, we should aim for Wed, Sep 3 13:26:26 s/9/6/ 13:26:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:26:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:28:10 ek: (continues to work on the publication dates as well as the transition request days) 13:29:38 ... btw, we don't need any group CfC. right? 13:29:59 kaz: right. REC transition is handled based on the AC Review results 13:30:43 ek: how to organize the transition request, btw? 13:31:06 kaz: as you know :) the transition requests are handled as GitHub Issues on the transition repo 13:32:09 s/transition/transitions/ 13:32:20 -> https://github.com/w3c/transitions transitions repo 13:32:49 ek: ok 13:33:09 ... we need to finalize the publication draft before the CfC 13:33:13 kaz: yeah 13:33:34 ek: let's aim for August 28 for doc freeze 13:34:02 ... we can still add some minor editorial changes, though 13:34:05 kaz: yeah 13:34:25 ek: what do you think of the updated draft schedule? 13:34:35 kaz: looks good as an initial starting point 13:34:37 q? 13:34:38 q- 13:35:10 ek: (moves to the Bindings Registry now) 13:35:15 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:35:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:35:54 i|we should discuss concrete|topic: Publication schedule| 13:36:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:38:01 i|the current WoT WG Charter ends|subtopic: TD 2.0| 13:38:22 i|moves to|subtopic: Bindings Registry| 13:38:22 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:38:23 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:38:47 ek: the Milestones Calculator is not really applicable to the Registries. Right? 13:38:54 kaz: ah, good question... 13:39:15 ... but there is a basic analogy between Registries and REC Track docs 13:39:35 ... so we can still use the Calculator to get a high-level estimation 13:39:37 ek: ok 13:41:06 ... looks good to me as an initial estimation :) 13:41:28 kaz: tx! 13:41:36 ... much much nicer than March 13 ;) 13:42:02 mjk: looks good for now 13:42:05 ek: ok 13:42:09 ... let's make a PR 13:45:58 topic: Binding 13:46:07 subtopc: PR 428 13:46:45 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/428 Binding PR 428 - fix: model BACnet relinquish explicitly 13:46:56 ek: can show the diff 13:47:18 q+ 13:47:57 ... (shows the diffs) 13:48:04 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/428/files diffs 13:49:00 ... (changes within TTL, JSON and HTML) 13:50:01 -> https://deploy-preview-428--wot-binding-templates.netlify.app Preview 13:50:31 kaz: this is a bug fix. right? 13:50:51 ek: adding some features also 13:51:05 kaz: so fixing bug and adding some features 13:51:07 ek: yes 13:52:26 mjk: this is a missing functionality from BACnet 13:52:28 ek: right 13:52:37 (merged) 13:52:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:52:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:53:25 topic: TD 13:53:59 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118 13:54:04 subtopic: PR 2118 13:54:06 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118|| 13:54:19 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118 PR 2118 - Binding Intro Reorganization 13:54:56 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/2118/b0fbec2...8ba5a30.html#bindings diff 13:55:05 ek: many diffs 13:55:13 ... (shows preview instead) 13:55:46 -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118.html#bindings Preview - 8. Bindings 13:56:03 ek: please shows the diff within the PR itself too 13:56:26 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2118/files diffs 13:56:29 q? 13:56:32 q- 13:56:51 ek: getting out of time. so let's close the call for today 13:56:53 [adjourned] 13:57:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:57:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:57:47 s/subtopc:/subtopic:/ 13:57:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:57:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/07/17-wot-td-minutes.html kaz